From: Winston on 11 Mar 2010 10:28 On 3/11/2010 6:52 AM, Rich Webb wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:47:07 -0800, Winston<Winston(a)bigbrother.net> > wrote: (...) >> Those are hardly important when you consider how funny it would be >> to watch random customers stand there, gobsmacked as you rearrange >> their brain from the comfort of your office. >> >> What do you think about this? > > Have a good^H^H^H^Hexcellent lawyer on retainer. What is the customer going to say? "You did *something* to cause me to lose voluntary muscle control!"? Manager can just smile and say "Now what could I have done to cause that?" The customer's lawyer and any prospective judge are both the property of the megacorporation that owns the restaurant anyway, so what is the concern? Thanks for your thoughts. --Winston
From: osr on 11 Mar 2010 10:33 Perhaps not, because nobody here would want to stand around a 2200 Mhz source producing 400+ watts per square CM pulses at a high rate, two meters away. The thresholds reported in the paper are in a anechonic chamber and do not reflect a uncontrolled environment. Plus there are signal processing issues, as your "toy" does not induce anything near audio into the brain... And there is considerable reflection toward the operator.. Steve
From: Winston on 11 Mar 2010 10:38 On 3/11/2010 7:25 AM, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote: > > > Winston wrote: > >> Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_denial_system http://www.bugsweeps.com/info/microwave.html Thanks, Vladimir. --Winston
From: Michael A. Terrell on 11 Mar 2010 10:42 D Yuniskis wrote: > > Winston wrote: > > Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? > > > > Picture this: > > A robber enters a restaurant, swings a pistol around and demands money. > > [snip] > > > What do you think about this? > > Why not just use a mass projector? They are available *now* > and aren't very expensive *or* subject to power outages, > remote disabling, etc. Or just drop a bowling ball on his head. ;-) -- Greed is the root of all eBay.
From: Winston on 11 Mar 2010 11:03
On 3/11/2010 7:33 AM, osr(a)uakron.edu wrote: > Perhaps not, because nobody here would want to stand around a 2200 Mhz > source producing 400+ watts per square CM pulses at a high rate, two > meters away. 1) Our customer surely would not *want* to stand in front of the antenna if he knew it existed and understood the danger. She has no choice, because she cannot even see the transmitter. There is no evidence it even exists. 2) The restaurant manager won't care. He knows there aren't any 'rear lobes' to be concerned about. His employees aren't aware it exists either. They are 'collateral damage'. When they come down with cataracts or leukemia, too bad, yes? 3) 400 W isn't necessary. About a milliwatt at the target is all that is required. Input power to the antenna can be minuscule because the radiation between the antenna and customer is going to be 'near field' for most of the distance. The real frequency would be some harmonic of ~900 MHz anyway because of the skull's cavity resonance. > The thresholds reported in the paper are in a anechonic > chamber and do not reflect a uncontrolled environment. If the shape of restaurant furniture causes phase reinforcement at the target, so much the better, right? > Plus there are signal processing issues, as your "toy" does not > induce anything near audio into the brain... Audio is not necessary, or desirable. We aren't attempting to discuss anything with the customer. Just controlling his body and hopefully causing long term serious illness. > And there is considerable reflection toward the operator.. Sheet metal is cheap and easy to install in the ceiling. We're only talking about a few mW of ERP, anyway. Thanks, Steve. |