From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
On 13/03/2010 06:58, Winston wrote:
> On 3/12/2010 10:37 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> (...)
>
>> No corporation would come within a mile of it.
>
> Why not?
> It'll prevent armed robbery in the store.
> It'll provide welcome entertainment for managers
> It'll punish recalcitrant employees
> It'll injure skimpy tippers, customers of the
> wrong skin color and anyone who 'needed zapping'
>
>> Even speculative law suits would bankrupt the company.
>
> No evidence = no lawsuits.

LOL!
What planet do you come from?


--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Winston on
On 3/12/2010 11:49 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
> On Mar 12, 9:21 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:

(...)

>> How could that be? Who is the 'nailer'?
>
> Disgrantled employee - not every manager has an attractive and
> sympathetic personality.

Are disgruntled employees particularly powerful in your area
of the world? Do they have the power to investigate, arrest,
prosecute and jail offenders? In my area of the world,
government resources are given to managers in order to steal
from disgruntled employees. It is a different environment.

Let me ask an entirely different question:

Who is the 'nailer'?

I can help here because there is no 'nailer'.
Superman is a myth, Bill.

>>> After you discover that the robber is actually a friend of the cashier
>>> and joking around and you lay him on the ground, make plans to sell
>>> off the business to pay legal costs and to spend a nice amount of time
>>> in jail.
>>
>> Are you seriously suggesting that a lawyer or judge would voluntarily
>> snuff out their career by prosecuting a case against their owners?
>
> Prosecutors just love high profile cases.

Sure, against the powerless. It's "votes in the bag" to pop a guy growing
pot for cancer victims. It is an honorable prosecution as well, yes?

Against powerful law breakers? Surely you jest.

>>> Put a revolver under the register if you have such a problem with
>>> robbery.
>>
>> But this is *so* much more elegant!
>
> Or would be, if it could work.

It works just fine.

>> Not only can the manager disable robbers, he can
>> use the system on honest employees and customers as well.
>
> Or could, if it could work.

It works great.

>> The entertainment is endless because it is completely
>> undetectable.
>
> A big dish antenna aobe a false ceiling, and the RF transmitter to
> drive it?

I guess I didn't mention this but:

"Of course it would be small and easy to hide. Pick a frequency that
beams well using a <12" diameter parabola yet still easily penetrates
through a couple inches of cranium to deposit 1 mW/ cm2 in the brain
over a distance of say 20 feet.
Pretty cheap and easy with suspended ceilings being as ubiquitous as
they are. "

> A bit harder to hide that a hand-gun, and ripping it out and
> dumping it off the bridge would be a little more obvious, and leave
> more obvious traces,

Why would removal be necessary?
The transmitter isn't illegal.
It isn't even considered immoral or even 'in poor taste'.

It is a weapon used against the powerless, so why wouldn't law enforcement
and the courts be fully supportive of it if they were "officially" aware?

> clown.

You believe that I speak in jest? I do not.

>> The old guy on table #4. Just as he lifts his coffee cup, zap
>> him and he pours hot coffee all over his shirt! He gets up,
>> and attempts to get to the bathroom, zap him again so he hits
>> his head on the counter and soils himself at the same time.
>>
>> I don't think you grasp the hilarious possibilities here.
>>
>> There isn't any evidence it was ever used, other than the recollection
>> of the victim. Who is going to believe him (or her for that matter)?
>
> Except the paper trail covers the papyments for the expensive
> installation, and the memories and records of the sub-contracots who
> did the work.

Let's say I specialize in installation and servicing of these tools.
I know what they are for and I realize that in an enlightened
society use of the tools would be considered assault and attempted
murder; the users and I would be jailed for a long, long time.

So my first move is to keep my activities far 'off the books'.
It's a cash deal only. My livelihood is dependent upon my disgression.
Ask any drug supplier to the rich and famous (unless you are also
convinced that they can never exist.)

Why would I dump into my own breakfast by squealing?

> You don't understand much.

Yes, it is a problem which I am solving, fact by fact. :)


Thanks for your thoughts, Bill.


--Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
On 13/03/2010 19:01, Winston wrote:
> On 3/12/2010 11:49 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 9:21 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> How could that be? Who is the 'nailer'?
>>
>> Disgrantled employee - not every manager has an attractive and
>> sympathetic personality.
>
> Are disgruntled employees particularly powerful in your area
> of the world? Do they have the power to investigate, arrest,
> prosecute and jail offenders? In my area of the world,

They don't need to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_whistleblowers


--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: AZ Nomad on
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:41:37 +0000, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>On 13/03/2010 19:01, Winston wrote:
>> On 3/12/2010 11:49 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
>>> On Mar 12, 9:21 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote:
>>
>> (...)
>>
>>>> How could that be? Who is the 'nailer'?
>>>
>>> Disgrantled employee - not every manager has an attractive and
>>> sympathetic personality.
>>
>> Are disgruntled employees particularly powerful in your area
>> of the world? Do they have the power to investigate, arrest,
>> prosecute and jail offenders? In my area of the world,

>They don't need to.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_whistleblowers


You don't think the innocent bystanders dropping like flies might
be a problem? Besides, the store owner is likely to be the first to test
it accidentally on himself. It's inevitable with such boobytraps.
From: Winston on
On 3/12/2010 10:38 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
> On 13/03/2010 05:39, Winston wrote:

(...)

>> The transmitter is the ultimate in plausible deniabilty.
>> Any complainant is bound to be labeled a kook, because people will
>> be unaware that the transmitter is being used on them.
>>
>> No evidence of crime means no crime could have been committed.
>
> Except the occasional disgruntled manager who teams up with an epileptic
> and lawyer. How much money would you accept to "end your McCareer"?


Let's run with that scenario.

The plantiff and the lawyer and the judge would all have to decide
to end their careers at the same time. Would you agree they are much
more likely to 'go along to get along' with a 50 billion dollar
(resourceful and infinitely corrupt) corporation?

They would be smart to drop the case at the earliest possible
moment, like a nanosecond after the victim's brother-in-law
says "so why don't you sue?".

--Winston


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