Microwave brain scrambler?
in [Design]
|
From: John Fields on 20 Mar 2010 09:13 On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: >The US military isn't too good at filtering out charlatans - they put >time and money into telepathy and clairvoyance at one point. --- What would you have had them do, take your tack and reject them out of hand with no investigation? Hmm... it seems with that new valve you're even more of a pig than you were before. JF
From: Winston on 20 Mar 2010 14:51 On 3/20/2010 6:13 AM, John Fields wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman > <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> wrote: > > >> The US military isn't too good at filtering out charlatans - they put >> time and money into telepathy and clairvoyance at one point. > > --- > What would you have had them do, take your tack and reject them out of > hand with no investigation? The Navy had spent ~600K on the development at that point. I know that isn't even chump change WRT the DoD but it does indicate that the Navy was convinced of the potential of the weapon. --Winston -- Today's retailer is in an awkward position. He must assuage his visceral need to anger some of his clients while having to delight them sufficiently to guarantee repeat business.
From: Winston on 20 Mar 2010 20:18 On 3/20/2010 2:27 PM, bill wrote: (...) > After ten minutes the winner takes everything on the table. > So Mr. Wilson gets free use of the equipment, no travel cost for this > or me, has multiple research papers and the military having spent > hundreds of thousands of dollars, all supporting his claim, and in ten > minutes he wins $10,000 for verifying what he is already certain of. > What could be better than that. All he needs to do is think of a way > to convince me he is serious. (Side bets will be gleefully accepted > for whether my brain immediately explodes or not) Let me respond by saying that I merely asked a question. I concluded the thread by accepting that the thread participants all indicated that, in their best engineering judgment, the effect was not likely to materialize under the conditions outlined. I indicated that I was satisfied there was ample evidence to support the theory and provided additional documentation but had indicated that we could 'agree to disagree' about the existence of the effect. I agree to the test with the following qualifications: Let's make it only "bragging rights" (because betting is illegal) and agree that the conditions of the test are to be identical to those shown in the patent: http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=elCiAAAAEBAJ&dq=US+2007/0249959 That means you get to find a 20 db gain parabolic antenna and 1.3 KW microwave transmitter that can source 100% amplitude modulated RF at 1.3 kW from 900 MHz to 4 GHz so that the subject is irradiated with a field strength of no less than 10.5 mW / cm^2. The test subject and family will sign a waver holding everyone and everything harmless in case of immediate or eventual repercussions including inconvenience, changed health, unconsciousness, impairment, death or any combination of the above occurring at any time. A disinterested licensed doctor or medical technician will evaluate the test subject before and after the test and will decide if the test may proceed. That medical doctor will be the sole arbiter of the effect of the test, if any. All parties and newsgroup participants agree to accept the judgment of that doctor without argument. The test will be double blind; designed and carried out by a disinterested engineer who's professional expertise encompasses the art and science necessary for a scientifically valid outcome. The ten minute limit will apply to that interval of time that the test subject is exposed to no less than 10.5 mW / cm^2 RF power. The test will be canceled without repercussion to any party if it becomes apparent that performance would be in violation of any local, state or federal law or is in conflict with the opinion of a disinterested licensed medical doctor who reviews the design of the test and examines the subject. The subject is to be recorded (both video and audio) during the test. Copies of the recordings and all data will be given to all interested parties. The audio and video recordings will be posted on Youtube.com and links to those and to all test data will be provided in the sci.electronics.design newsgroup. The subject is to be standing during the test and will be provided with 24" thick, soft cushions on the floor area in a 360 degree arc, designed so that the subject will not be harmed should he fall or convulse. All publication rights will be ceded to me. I will be present during the test, to the best of my ability but will not conduct it or participate in any way. I will not be held liable for anything or to anyone, including resources to conduct the test. Agreed? Thanks for your attention --Winston
From: Winston on 22 Mar 2010 01:55 On 3/21/2010 4:52 PM, Marten Kemp wrote: > "...an organization that is incapable of any sort of immorality > or crime, because they would never be accused, no matter who > they attacked." > > I don't quite follow. Please pardon my sarcasm. We define immorality and crime by who we punish. A loser knocking over a liquor store clearly did an immoral, criminal act. We arrest and prosecute him. On the other hand, people in positions of power regularly and normally commit crimes that are 1000's of times more detrimental to society without any sort of meaningful punishment. Consider the bank bailouts that privatized profits at the expense of public debt. Consider an upper level corporate manager practicing medicine without a license in order to further his political goals. Think: Bernie Madoff. It is simply impossible for society to punish him at the same ratio dollar-for-dollar than we punish that loser who knocks over the liquor store. Think: Insurance companies who say "You have no claim" before one even has a chance to ask a question. Think: Tobacco companies. They *had* to have known that their product caused cancer and emphysema decades before it became public knowledge. Yet tens of thousands of people died believing the lies of Big Tobacco. There are too many more examples. The one thing that these powerful folks have in common is that they have to step very far outside the bounds of good behavior before we arrest and prosecute. Even then, most spend their lives committing crimes that would get you or me put away for the rest of our lives. These are the folks who will be in control of the pulse microwave transmitter. They will use it to tailor the demographic in restaurants (No overweight folks, no older folks no people of the wrong race etc.) Some of us older folks will be convinced we suffered our first serious stroke and will plan accordingly. (Take that in the darkest possible way). These people in positions of power will use it immorally because and leaves no evidence. We choose not to make this sort of assault illegal. Why is that? It's one of those forest/tree things. If a law enforcement official is aware of a crime and chooses not to investigate, did that crime really happen? My point is, de facto, it didn't because the perpetrator is too well connected to be arrested. Did that clarify my statement? Thanks --Winston
From: Winston on 28 Mar 2010 17:06
On 3/20/2010 2:27 PM, bill wrote: > All he needs to do is think of a way > to convince me he is serious. Bill? Where did you go? I solved one of the engineering problems for you. Turns out marine radars can be hacked to provide the necessary bursts of high power microwaves: eBay 300411472600 is a 3 KW 9.44 GHz unit for only $10. Here's the user manual: http://www.raymarine.com/SubmittedFiles/Handbooks/Legacy_Handbooks/radar/R41.pdf I can pick it up for you in Garden Grove. It comes with a slotted antenna so you don't even have to find a parabola, though it might need to be repaired. Let me repeat that I regard this to be a dangerous weapon likely to cause serious injury. I urge you to not get involved with it in any way. --Winston |