From: Howard Eisenhauer on 11 Mar 2010 18:05 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:47:07 -0800, Winston <Winston(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? > *Snip* >What do you think about this? > >Thanks > >--Winston The paper absrtract says- Abstract Monolayer cultures of human neuroblastoma cells were exposed to 915-MHz radiation, with or without sinusoidal amplitude modulation (80%) at 16 Hz, at specific absorption rates (SAR) for the culture medium and cells of 0.00, 0.01, 0.05, 0.075, 0.1, 0.5, 0.75, 1.0, 1.5, 2, or 5 mW/g. A significant increase in the efflux of calcium ions (45Ca2+) as compared to unexposed control cultures occurred at two SAR values: 0.05 and 1 mW/g. Increased efflux at 0.05 mW/g was dependent on the presence of amplitude modulation at 16 Hz but at the higher value it was not. These results indicate that human neuroblastoma cells are sensitive to extremely low levels of microwave radiation at certain narrow ranges of SAR. Received: 16 September 1982; Revised: 14 July 1983 There's a real big difference between illuminating a single layer of cells in a cultute & lighting up a brain's worth of cells in some numbskull's er, um... skull. Ampitude modulation? What's the mechanisum operating to de-modulate the signal so it can affect the calcium channels? If there ain't no demodulation happenig all you're getting is heating effect. I note a distinct lack of corroborating followup studies over the last 28 years. i.e.- Not Much. H.
From: Winston on 11 Mar 2010 18:40 On 3/11/2010 3:05 PM, Howard Eisenhauer wrote: > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:47:07 -0800, Winston<Winston(a)bigbrother.net> > wrote: > >> Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? >> > > > *Snip* > >> What do you think about this? >> >> Thanks >> >> --Winston > > The paper absrtract says- (...) > There's a real big difference between illuminating a single layer of > cells in a cultute& lighting up a brain's worth of cells in some > numbskull's er, um... skull. How so? All the necessary parts have been on the shelf for decades. * Amplitude - modulatable Microwave oscillator up to ~10 GHz at <1W * 16 Hz Audio oscillator * Small parabolic antenna with pitch and yaw servo system * Various waveguide bits You don't need to illuminate the entire 3 lbs. at all. > Ampitude modulation? What's the mechanisum operating to de-modulate > the signal so it can affect the calcium channels? If there ain't no > demodulation happenig all you're getting is heating effect. If it were heat alone, then the effect should be more pronounced at higher power levels. Efflux diminishes, instead. I don't know *why* swamping the brain with a disingenuous EEG waveform causes it to disregard the lower power signals coming from the cells it should be listening to. It seems reasonable that it would behave in that fashion, given the science. > I note a distinct lack of corroborating followup studies over the last > 28 years. > i.e.- Not Much. > > H. Thanks, Howard. --Winston
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 11 Mar 2010 23:59 On 11/03/2010 15:28, Winston wrote: > On 3/11/2010 6:52 AM, Rich Webb wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:47:07 -0800, Winston<Winston(a)bigbrother.net> >> wrote: > > (...) > >>> Those are hardly important when you consider how funny it would be > >> to watch random customers stand there, gobsmacked as you rearrange > >> their brain from the comfort of your office. >>> >>> What do you think about this? >> >> Have a good^H^H^H^Hexcellent lawyer on retainer. > > What is the customer going to say? > > "You did *something* to cause me to lose voluntary muscle control!"? > > Manager can just smile and say "Now what could I have done to cause > that?" "That big microwave dish that swung round and focused on me". Lawyer for perp subpoenas all documentation on installation. > The customer's lawyer and any prospective judge are both the property > of the megacorporation that owns the restaurant anyway, > so what is the concern? None. It's cheaper to hand over a few hundred, or thousand, dollars than get involved in the cheapest lawsuit. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Bill Beaty on 12 Mar 2010 00:23 On Mar 11, 3:40 pm, Winston <Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: > I don't know *why* swamping the brain with a disingenuous EEG waveform In other words, if you pulse-modulate a microwave oven, and pull the magnetron out and lay it on your bench, will it knock you unconscious when turned on? (Or distort your thinking, mimic psychoactive drug effects, etc.?) If it doesn't work, just place your brain closer. Do like this guy below. I love how the RF is overloading the audio in his camcorder. cornea-frying fun w/bare magnetron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_DKblzdbJI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNu9o--NRNI ((((((((((((((((((((((( ( ( (o) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty Research Engineer beaty, chem washington edu UW Chem Dept, Bagley Hall RM74 billb, eskimo com Box 351700, Seattle, WA 98195-1700 ph206-762-3818 http://staff.washington.edu/wbeaty/
From: Winston on 12 Mar 2010 01:17
On 3/11/2010 9:23 PM, Bill Beaty wrote: > On Mar 11, 3:40 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >> I don't know *why* swamping the brain with a disingenuous EEG waveform > > In other words, if you pulse-modulate a microwave oven, and pull the > magnetron out and lay it on your bench, will it knock you unconscious > when turned on? (Or distort your thinking, mimic psychoactive drug > effects, etc.?) At the proper modulation frequency and carrier amplitude, one would probably lose all senses. One might move an object, say a wallet from one pocket to another without being aware of it. If the carrier were turned off soon enough, one would remain standing but would be quite disoriented and confused, as if waking from sleep. It would take a couple minutes before one would be completely conscious. Not a painful experience, but quite unpleasant. --Winston |