From: nospam on
In article <jrlb66d9q6l6kjf7sk7r0ms745n1k6gq3d(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> MyBackup is dead easy. �<http://www.rerware.com/Android/>
> >
> >agreed, but it is an extra step for many users.
>
> Less so than iTunes. No computer required. Better backup in the cloud.

better for some people, but not for others. some data *can't* be in the
cloud and other data the user might not want it there.
From: nospam on
In article <h7mb66db9fn7ctaq99nljofmlf08gcvihi(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> Does you little good when you're not near the computer,
> or the computer crashes, or it gets stolen, etc.

does you little good when the cloud is not available (think on an
airplane, subway, etc.) or the cloud crashes (think t-mobile, last
fall). plus the iphone can sync to the cloud anyway.

different strokes for different folks.
From: KDT on
On Aug 13, 4:30 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:43:32 -0700 (PDT), in
> <929f7c02-ef51-4b0c-8820-dbff79af1...(a)z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, KDT
>
>
>
>
>
> <scarface...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 10:38 am, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 05:09:52 -0400, in
> >> <Y289o.12459$1v3.4...(a)newsfe20.iad>, Todd Allcock
>
> >> <eleccon...(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> >> >At 12 Aug 2010 21:26:02 -0700 KDT wrote:
> >> >> I don't want to listen to the same artist.  I want a playlist for when
> >> >> I'm working out.  I want a different playlist on my way home.  I want
> >> >> mellow background music, etc.
>
> >> >Yeah, Android support of playlists seems particularly weak.  ...
>
> >> Not on HTC Sense devices, which have a nice Music player that does
> >> playlists easily.
> >What's "nice" about having to dig through your songs, hold down the
> >song button, and press add to playlist and then choose the playlist
> >instead of creating a playlist on iTunes with all songs that have
> >"workout" in the comments that were added within the past three months
> >and letting iTunes do the work?
>
> I prefer to do everything on my mobile.  But if I wanted to create a
> playlist on my computer, I'd simply put the tunes in a folder and sync
> it to my mobile.  Simple, fast, and easy, no need for iTunes bloatware.
>

Even if you put your songs in individual folders under the Music
folder on the SD card. The media player on the phone does *not*
recognize the hierarchy. But let me give you a real world example.
Here is my real world use for playlist/

Playlist 1: Workout -- about 2.5GB of songs I like to workout to.
Anytime I want to add a song, I add it to this playlist

Playlist 2: 75 Minute Workout
A smart playlist set up as follows:
Rule 1: Songs in Workout playlist
Rule 2: Last Skipped is not in the last 15 days

Limit to 75 minutes selected by least recently played.

Playlist 3: Shuffle workout -- basically the same as #2 but limited to
950MB.

I have three different iPods -- a shuffle, a Nano, and a Touch -- If I
skip or play a song on any of the players, all of the players have
playlists that are *automatically* updated. I have a different
playlist created based on songs I haven't heard or skipped recently,
created *automatically* just by plugging in whichever iPod I've
used.

The next question you're going to ask, is why do I have three separate
iPods. The shuffle is used for outdoor running so I don't need an
armband, the Nano is used in the gym so I have the option to use the
radio to listen to the audio from the T.V. and the Touch is rarely
used when running because a capacitive touch screen is useless when
your hands are wet and you actually have to look at it to control it.

To keep this on-topic, substitute "iPhone" for "Touch"
> --
> John
>
> "If the only tool you have is a hammer,
> you will see every problem as a nail."
> -Abraham Maslow

From: nospam on
In article
<b285f07e-ef83-445f-a2d7-eefe0e9a5b57(a)x25g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
KDT <scarface_74(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have three different iPods -- a shuffle, a Nano, and a Touch -- If I
> skip or play a song on any of the players, all of the players have
> playlists that are *automatically* updated. I have a different
> playlist created based on songs I haven't heard or skipped recently,
> created *automatically* just by plugging in whichever iPod I've
> used.

excellent example

> The next question you're going to ask, is why do I have three separate
> iPods. The shuffle is used for outdoor running so I don't need an
> armband, the Nano is used in the gym so I have the option to use the
> radio to listen to the audio from the T.V. and the Touch is rarely
> used when running because a capacitive touch screen is useless when
> your hands are wet and you actually have to look at it to control it.

i bet he'll say he does not need to do that therefore it's not
important.
From: KDT on
On Aug 13, 6:12 pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
> You're both arguing a chicken/egg scenario.
> KDT- how did you get the contacts into the FIRST iPhone/iPod Touch, that
> now syncs so magically with iTunes into your next iPhone?  Type all 500
> of them in by hand?  Use Outlook?  iLife?  You certainly didn't beam them
> out of an old Nokia 8290 directly into the iPhone.  Once you had the data
> in a form iTunes could work with, syncing the iPhone became trivial.
>

Actually, my previous phone was a Samsung A900, (before the BB). I
sent all of the contacts to my Mac over bluetooth and they were all
vCards that easily imported into Mail. From there I was able to export
them to my iPod. I sent the contacts directly from my Mac to my BB
over Bluetooth.