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From: nospam on 13 Aug 2010 19:11 In article <a397a53e-c7a0-4f1e-baca-5609842b0d61(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, ed <news(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > > > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and > > > > then restoring on your new phone? > > > > > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. �yeah, going from iphone- > > > iphone is easy. �going android-android is even easier, with regards to > > > backing up contacts. �you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail > > > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the > > > store. �no need to dock anything. > > > > but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data. > > i didn't say it wasn't. you want i should confirm everything i agree > with? :P you were implying that android to android is easier because contacts is easy, when in fact updating is a lot more work and requires a paid app according to navas.
From: ed on 13 Aug 2010 19:37 On Aug 13, 4:11 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > > > > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and > > > > > then restoring on your new phone? > > > > > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. yeah, going from iphone- > > > > iphone is easy. going android-android is even easier, with regards to > > > > backing up contacts. you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail > > > > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the > > > > store. no need to dock anything. > > > > but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data. > > > i didn't say it wasn't. you want i should confirm everything i agree > > with? :P > > you were implying that android to android is easier because contacts is > easy, no, i was explicitly stating that android to android contacts is easier. i also stated that redownloading apps, including paid apps, is very easy. i made no comments on the rest, as i believe kdt is more or less correct on those points. > when in fact updating is a lot more work and requires a paid app > according to navas. not a lot of work to begin with, so i'm not sure if it can be a lot more work overall. ;D certainly 'more' (for small values of more) work though. the paid app is an option. not required.
From: John Navas on 13 Aug 2010 19:38 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:02:44 -0700 (PDT), in <cde622c2-3468-4608-9929-b5872dfc0c75(a)a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, ed <news(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: >On Aug 13, 3:54�pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: >> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: >> >On Aug 13, 3:43�pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: >> >> > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and >> >> > > then restoring on your new phone? >> >> >> > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. �yeah, going from iphone- >> >> > iphone is easy. �going android-android is even easier, with regards to >> >> > backing up contacts. �you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail >> >> > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the >> >> > store. �no need to dock anything. >> >> >> but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data. >> >> >i didn't say it wasn't. �you want i should confirm everything i agree >> >with? �:P >> >> MyBackup is dead easy. �<http://www.rerware.com/Android/> > >agreed, but it is an extra step for many users. Less so than iTunes. No computer required. Better backup in the cloud. -- John "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you will see every problem as a nail." -Abraham Maslow
From: ed on 13 Aug 2010 19:40 On Aug 13, 4:38 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > >On Aug 13, 3:54 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > >> >On Aug 13, 3:43 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> >> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote: > >> >> > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and > >> >> > > then restoring on your new phone? > > >> >> > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. yeah, going from iphone- > >> >> > iphone is easy. going android-android is even easier, with regards to > >> >> > backing up contacts. you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail > >> >> > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the > >> >> > store. no need to dock anything. > > >> >> but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data. > > >> >i didn't say it wasn't. you want i should confirm everything i agree > >> >with? :P > > >> MyBackup is dead easy. <http://www.rerware.com/Android/> > > >agreed, but it is an extra step for many users. > > Less so than iTunes. No computer required. Better backup in the cloud. yeah, but i would guess most iphone buyers have itunes already installed.
From: Todd Allcock on 13 Aug 2010 19:30
At 13 Aug 2010 15:18:17 -0700 nospam wrote: > In article <Wrj9o.24704$RZ1.23447(a)newsfe24.iad>, Todd Allcock > <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > > > Sorry I haven't been clearer. I've been backed into a corner by a third- > > party app, Overdrive Media Console, an audiobook management app that > > allows you to borrow audiobooks from local libraries over the 'net and > > sync them via iTunes to iPods/iPhones. For whatever reason (presumably > > DRM) the software requires any iPod receiving the books to be in manual > > management mode. > > why the hell does it care? what did they say when you asked them why > their software is braindead? > > seriously, get them to fix it. The iTunes/iPod support is fairly recent. Prior it was WinMo only. They've gone cross-platform and also support Android and Blackberry. Frankly they're already behind schedule on their next version, so I'll wait for that before yelling at them. Supposedly support for Adobe DRM- based library eBooks is coming, something iOS doesn't support yet, and will supposedly support direct download from library to the iOS device. > > I don't mind manually managing music (though I don't necessarily want to)- > > I do, however, expect such music to be backed up and restored. That > > seems to be a strange "exception" for a music-playing device- iTunes > > backs up everything except the actual music! > > for whatever reason, manually manage music means it's *all* up to you. Maybe I should ask them why their software is so braindead and ask them to fix it? ;) > > Creating one giant playlist of all the content on the iPhone will > > "simulate" a media backup. After a restore I can manually drag the one > > "everything" playlist to the iPhone to restore the content wiped out in > > the restore process. > > you can have multiple playlists and then a master playlist that > includes the other playlists. like i said, it's very flexible :) That ought to work fine- I'll just drag everything currently on the device into a single giant playlist, and call it "Kludge." ;) |