From: John Navas on
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:50:47 -0700 (PDT), in
<a397a53e-c7a0-4f1e-baca-5609842b0d61(a)u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, ed
<news(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote:

>On Aug 13, 3:43�pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote:
>> > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and
>> > > then restoring on your new phone?
>>
>> > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. �yeah, going from iphone-
>> > iphone is easy. �going android-android is even easier, with regards to
>> > backing up contacts. �you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail
>> > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the
>> > store. �no need to dock anything.
>>
>> but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data.
>
>i didn't say it wasn't. you want i should confirm everything i agree
>with? :P

MyBackup is dead easy. <http://www.rerware.com/Android/>

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern�s Law of Suspended Judgement]
From: nospam on
In article <4cib66l87s54om7bh3jkklb216k5hc5uka(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Let's see, you've listed....
> >
> >1. A program to buy music (Amazon MP3)
>
> On the phone. Comes preloaded.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?
>
> >2. A program to manage podcast
>
> No, a podcast client that includes management capabilities.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?

why must it be done on the phone? move the goalposts much? itunes on
the desktop automatically gets new podcasts and they're automatically
copied to the device every time it's synced which is whenever it's
plugged in to charge. you do charge your phone, no?

however, itunes, which you say does not run on iphones, comes preloaded
on iphones and lets you download podcasts. there are also third party
apps that offer podcast support. plenty of choices, more so than on
android.

> >3. A program/service to manage text messages
>
> No, a comprehensive communications system.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?

messages for sms/mms, it comes preloaded. there are also numerous apps
that offer free text messaging.

didn't you say you owned three iphones? certainly does not look like
it, since you are so incredibly unfamiliar with its capabilities.

> >4. A program to backup the rest of your phones contents
>
> Yep. To the cloud.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?

that's actually up to the app, and froyo adds apis for that (i.e., it's
not really there before froyo).

however, there's a lot of data i do *not* want in the cloud, or am
required to not have it there. what do you use on android when you have
confidential data you *don't* want in the cloud?

> >5. Going back to Google Market place to redownload all of your apps
> >(and what about the data for the apps?)
>
> No, MyBackup restores them.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?

completely automatic every time it's synced. there is no additional
software needed.

the question is what do you do to match what itunes does? so far you
list numerous apps, versus one.

> >6. A program to sync your contacts.
>
> No, that's the Google cloud.
> What do you use on the iPhone that has comparable capabilities?

completely automatic every time it's synced. there is no additional
software needed. contacts can also sync via the cloud if the user
desires.

> >And you still have a crummy media management solution.....
>
> Not to me. YMMV.

and in fact, most people's m does v.
From: ed on
On Aug 13, 3:54 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 13, 3:43 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> <n...(a)atwistedweb.com> wrote:
> >> > > So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and
> >> > > then restoring on your new phone?
>
> >> > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said.  yeah, going from iphone-
> >> > iphone is easy.  going android-android is even easier, with regards to
> >> > backing up contacts.  you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail
> >> > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the
> >> > store.  no need to dock anything.
>
> >> but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data.
>
> >i didn't say it wasn't.  you want i should confirm everything i agree
> >with?  :P
>
> MyBackup is dead easy.  <http://www.rerware.com/Android/>

agreed, but it is an extra step for many users.
From: nospam on
In article <uiib66lg5qu6mda2fe7g93gadiumao9vnh(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> >It was Best Buy.
> >>
> >> There's a lesson there. �;)
> >
> >Best Buy doesn't require you to wait for a rebate -- unlike,
> >ironically, buying directly from Sprint.
>
> There's a lesson there. ;) Hint: Don't buy from Sprint.

because you say so?

> >> >But isn't it a lot easier just to use iTunes to back
> >> >up your old phone and then restore?
> >>
> >> No. �There's a lesson there too. �;)
> >
> >So there is something hard about docking your iPhone, backing up, and
> >then restoring on your new phone?
>
> It requires tethering to bloatware on your computer that has a nasty
> habit of corrupting its own database and/or your tethered device,
> whereas I use the cloud seamlessly and easily right from my mobile
> wherever I happen to be.

it does nothing of the sort, and what if the cloud is not accessible?

> "Different strokes for different folks."

yep, so why can't you accept that another person made a different
choice? are you that threatened (to use your usual line)?
From: nospam on
In article <n4jb661ju9kgfic0cvcfu4a0b0lp7otekk(a)4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> > you're comparing apples-oranges as i said. �yeah, going from iphone-
> >> > iphone is easy. �going android-android is even easier, with regards to
> >> > backing up contacts. �you'd get your new phone, put in your gmail
> >> > info, and have everything synced and ready to go before you leave the
> >> > store. �no need to dock anything.
> >>
> >> but the rest of the stuff is more difficult, such as app data.
> >
> >i didn't say it wasn't. you want i should confirm everything i agree
> >with? :P
>
> MyBackup is dead easy. <http://www.rerware.com/Android/>

it's a paid app? weren't you bragging how so much android software was
free? and how are all users going to find out about this anyway?

itunes backs *everything* up, for free. it 'just works.'