From: Phat Bytestard on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:30:12 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>Ken Smith wrote:
>
>> In article <44D222B8.DD68A7C9(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Ken Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >> The US only sells the previous generation of hardware not the latest. The
>> >> US airforce spends the money for development of the new fighters not the
>> >> other countries they get sold to.
>> >
>> >Well..... Britain's getting some JSFs too.
>>
>> We are now "after they were developed". They didn't put any money I know
>> of into the development pot.
>
>F-35 JSF Involvement Across BAE Systems
>During the System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase, BAE Systems is
>involved in two particular areas- airframe and mission systems. A major part of
>the UK industrial contribution to JSF will come from BAE Systems aircraft
>manufacturing facilities in Warton and Samlesbury, as well as facilities at
>Rochester and Edinburgh. BAE Systems North America facilities in Nashua, NH, and
>Johnson City, NY, also support a significant amount of F-35 JSF involvement for
>BAE Systems.
>
>The aft fuselage and empennage (tails and fins) for each F-35 JSF are being
>designed, engineered and built at the BAE Systems Samlesbury site, using the
>latest in advanced design and manufacturing technology.
>
>The aft-fuselage and empennage will be shipped to Lockheed Martin?s Fort Worth
>plant in the summer of 2005, where they will be joined with the wing and forward
>fuselage from Lockheed Martin and the centre fuselage from Northrop Grumman.
>Assembly of the initial F-35A conventional takeoff and landing (CTOL) variant is
>expected to be completed at the end of the year. The first flight of the CTOL
>aircraft is scheduled for mid-2006.
>
>BAE Systems is responsible for the design and delivery of key areas of the
>vehicle and weapon systems, in particular the fuel system, crew escape, life
>support system, Prognostics Health Management (PHM) integration and Electro
>Optical Targeting System (EOTS). BAE Systems also has significant work share in
>Autonomic Logistics, primarily on the support system side, and is involved in the
>Integrated Test Force, including the systems flight test and mission systems.
>
>BAE Systems is also responsible for supplying the Vehicle Management Computer,
>the Communication, Navigation and Identification (CNI) modules, the active stick
>and throttle and the EOTS Laser subsystem.
>
>BAE Systems facilities in the US & UK are responsible for developing an Alternate
>Helmet Mounted Display System (AHMDS) as part of the risk mitigation effort for
>the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. BAE Systems has successfully completed the
>Critical Design Review (CDR) which was funded by the UK Joint Combat Aircraft
>Integrated Product Team (UK MOD).
>
>Through its Nashua, NH, facility, BAE Systems is responsible for the F-35 JSF?s
>Electronic Warfare (EW) systems suite and is also providing advanced, affordable
>low-observable apertures and advanced countermeasure systems. Additionally, BAE
>Systems will provide critical and complex electronic circuits and modelling and
>simulation capability in support of the System Development and Demonstration
>(SDD) and production phases of the program.
>
>BAE Systems - A Key Partner on the F-35 JSF Program
>BAE Systems brings with it a rich heritage of Short Takeoff and Vertical Landing
>(STOVL) experience from the Harrier program as well as advanced lean
>manufacturing technology from its facilities at Warton and Samlesbury, UK. BAE
>Systems has the most modern fighter production line and the most recent
>experience utilizing and applying digital design due to its manufacturing
>experience on Typhoon.
>
>BAE Systems is a major UK industrial participant, investing $72M upfront in the
>Concept Development Phase (CDP) and $65M in UK JSF facilities during SDD.
>
>http://www.baesystems.com/facts/programmes/airsystems/jsf.htm

Nice. You actually are good for something every now and then.
From: Eeyore on


Jim Yanik wrote:

> John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:+X65pK5C760EFwNV(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:
>
> > In message <f5a7d2pdo9eqlha46iun58gsdve3knqbqh(a)4ax.com>, dated Fri, 4
> > Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
> >
> >>What I meant was the population, _not_ the land mass, FHS!
> >
> > Yes, of course, but the question is still nonsense. No-one can tell what
> > would happen; it depends so much on why you disappeared and when.
>
> If the US (nation,not landmass)were not around anymore,the rest of the
> world would eventually become less free.Perhaps enslaved.

That's one of the *looniest* things I've yet seen stated in this thread.


> They do not realize the threats they face,and are unwilling to prepare to
> deal with them.
> They wrongly believe that negotiation or isolationism will solve all their
> troubles.

Negotiation finally fixed the Irish problem. Do you think war would have ?

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Jim Yanik wrote:

> John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:3ptbWzycMm0EFwvd(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:
>
> > In message <hhm4d21q5mgl9vu47lcd7krn5cfrb35b7t(a)4ax.com>, dated Thu, 3
> > Aug 2006, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> writes
> >
> >> And, you should be afraid of us. You should be _very_ afraid.
> >
> > Rest assured, John. We ARE very afraid of people who express views
> > similar to those you express. They are so like those expressed by
> > militant Islamists.
>
> Then you have a misplaced sense of things.
> Our ACTIONS speak for themselves,and so do the Islamics.
> You seem to believe they are equivalent.

Your mistake, which seems common in the US is to see all 'Islamists' - they're
called Moslems btw as freedom-hating terrorists.

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Jim Yanik wrote:

> John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:EGRndMZvAz0EFw6f(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:
>
> > In message <44d32761$0$16497$e4fe514c(a)dreader12.news.xs4all.nl>, dated
> > Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> writes
> >>I'm told that China has enough dollars in the bank to *buy* the entire
> >>USA ;)
>
> the Japanese tried that a few years ago,lost their asses.

Cite ?

Graham

From: Phat Bytestard on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:19:47 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>Phat Bytestard wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:46:56 +0100, Eeyore
>> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>
>> > It was all a big conspiracy.
>>
>> You're an idiot.
>
>The fact you can't distinguish a joke from reality is very telling !
>

The fact that you make one in this thread is very telling.

My declaration remains... You are an idiot.