From: Eeyore on


Jim Yanik wrote:

> John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:pWKspSaCaz0EFw+x(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk:
>
> > In message <44D32FCF.21FB5C99(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Fri, 4 Aug
> > 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes
> >
> >>Just seen on Channel 4 news. A poll indicates that a mere 16% of the UK
> >>population backs His Blairness's pro-Israel stance.
> >
> > That doesn't mean that he is wrong. I expect 84% of people believe
> > something that you KNOW is wrong.
>
> what people believe is dependent on what they get from the media,

Do you really think the Britsih are that dumb ? Might be true of the USA though.



> and that is more often biased and inaccurate.

Once again true of the USA but not so here. Don't make judgements solely on US
practice.


> The stuff about the anti pro-Israel stance only demonstrates anti-
> Semitism,still prevalent(GROWING?) in Europe.

Yet more disinformation you've swallowed. If there's any religiously based
concerns it's actually about Islam.


> They overlook what the Islamics plan for Western society,ALL of it.
> I note the Islamics are still bombing (or attempting to bomb)European
> countries that have backed out of support for the Western side.

Oh yeah. I'm sure *all* Moslems are fanatics ! Grow up Jim !

Graham

From: Eeyore on


Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> > The stuff about the anti pro-Israel stance only demonstrates anti-
> > Semitism,still prevalent(GROWING?) in Europe.
>
> You read about that in the US press, I assume...

I've heard this nonsense before too. It's quite bizarre where they get it from.
It seems endemic in the USA to find articles about anti-Jewish feeling in
Europe. I assume it's the result of the US Zionist lobby.

Try Googling. It's quite wacky !

Graham

From: Phat Bytestard on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 14:55:21 -0500, John Fields
<jfields(a)austininstruments.com> Gave us:

>In any case, lucky for you that we got dragged into it when we did,
>no?

You'll never get a straight answer from that dweeb.
From: Phat Bytestard on
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:11:01 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> Gave us:

>
>
>Frank Bemelman wrote:
>
>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman(a)ieee.org> schreef in bericht
>> news:44d34be9$0$2814$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> >
>> > "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> schreef in
>> > bericht news:dp85d21r71jr2495asoedog49cp1kskcnk(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> >> In 1950, at the end of 1000 years of European domination of the world,
>> >> there were 22 democracies. By 2000, after a mere 50 years of evil
>> >> American hegemony, there were 120, by far the greatest number in
>> >> history.
>> >>
>> >> 120/22 = 5.4, a pretty serious factor.
>> >
>> > And you are counting Zimbabwe, Chile, Indonesia and Pakistan as
>> > democracies?
>> >
>> > How many of the new democracies are new nation states? Papua-New Guinea
>> > probably rates as a democracy in your book, but it does not score too well
>> > on any index of democratic function.
>> >
>> > In short, point us to your list of democracies - both the one for 1950 and
>> > the one for 2000.
>>
>> Does the actual number matter here? This is just one of JL's famous smoke
>> curtains, pretending as if the increase in democracies is an all American
>> achievement, for which the world - again - has to be thankful or something.
>
>Indeed. The USA probably contributed fairly insignificantly to that number.
>

Can you really be *THAT* stupid?
From: Eeyore on


Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
>
> > I note that the US is keen to get 60 million Muslims into the EU,
> > against the wishes of the vast majority of its people.
>
> And just in case you don't get it:
> http://www.state.gov/p/us/rm/15924.htm
>
> "As President Bush said to Mr. Erdogan just two days ago, the U.S.,
> although not part of the EU, supports Turkey's bid for accession. "
>
> And you think the US has the best interests of Europe at heart eh? Why
> don't you let in 70 million Muslims to the US (not 60m as I said above).
> Or might that cause some problems longterm?

And let's also remember that Turkey is one of the least democratic countries in
the region, yet the USA has had no qualms whatever about dealing with them ( for
reasons of military interest of course ).

Graham