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John Woodgate on 13 Aug 2006 05:53 In message <h92dnV0d1tgnf0PZRVny3w(a)bt.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Reg Edwards <g4fgq.regp(a)ZZZbtinternet.com> writes > >"Phat Bytestard" wrote >> Saddam was killing people from the moment he was released from >prison >> in 1969 to the moment we put him back in one. >===================================== > >Saddam was doing his best for his country. > > Initially. So was Hitler - initially. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
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John Woodgate on 13 Aug 2006 06:16 In message <44DEF7A3.9E134685(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >A *collosal* mistake in fact. It might conceivably have turned events >around but the White House wanted to use Halliburton for Iraqi >reconstruction ( pork politics ) rather than the Iraqis themselves and >the seeds of hate and division were sown. It wasn't a brilliant move, but think of the 'pork' that would have been involved if Iraqi companies had won the contracts. And how much materiel would have found its way into Hisbollah fortifications? The contracts should, of course, have been awarded to British contractors, who are wholly incorruptible and supremely efficient. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: bill.sloman on 13 Aug 2006 11:18 John Woodgate wrote: > In message <44DEF7A3.9E134685(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug > 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes > > >A *collosal* mistake in fact. It might conceivably have turned events > >around but the White House wanted to use Halliburton for Iraqi > >reconstruction ( pork politics ) rather than the Iraqis themselves and > >the seeds of hate and division were sown. > > It wasn't a brilliant move, but think of the 'pork' that would have been > involved if Iraqi companies had won the contracts. And how much materiel > would have found its way into Hisbollah fortifications? > > The contracts should, of course, have been awarded to British > contractors, who are wholly incorruptible and supremely efficient. Sea-green incorruptible and supremely efficient at ripping off their clients ... -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Fred Bloggs on 13 Aug 2006 11:52 John Woodgate wrote: > > It wasn't a brilliant move, but think of the 'pork' that would have been > involved if Iraqi companies had won the contracts. And how much materiel > would have found its way into Hisbollah fortifications? > The Iraqis are congenitally thieves from hell, corruption is as rampant as can be , and it has been this way from the start. The original coalition government was handing out billions of dollars of contracts to local Iraqis and much of this business was fraudulent. They have also stolen billions of dollars of oil revenues, one case involving a $1B transfer into a Turkish bank where the trail vanished. The *collaborator* VERMIN were cashing in from the very beginning, making their millions, and then departing the chaos for points unknown. A very recent Inspector General survey revealed that this kind of corruption extends down to the lowest echelons with ordinary Iraqis being required to pay petty bribes for the slightest bit of government services and entitlements. I put the blame for this on the extremely non-meritorious meritocracy that holds sway over the highest levels of US government policy making in the way of various think tanks, working groups, task forces etc ( and your government is even worse). I listen to these people all the time and they are just plain wrong and ignorant 99.99% of the time, the worthless and effete riffraff are living in some kind fantasy constructed of pure verbiage and nuanced phraseology without the least clue of reality, a reality that would overwhelm them into total stupefaction due to their lack of intelligence and experience. Seems like it's time to get down off our high horse and realize that this entire experiment called western civilization is a hopeless failure living on borrowed time and accident.
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John Woodgate on 13 Aug 2006 12:48
In message <44DF4AB1.1000101(a)nospam.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Fred Bloggs <nospam(a)nospam.com> writes >The Iraqis are congenitally thieves from hell, corruption is as rampant >as can be , and it has been this way from the start. I think this is not a fair judgement. The Arabic culture, as I understand a little of it, does not regard bribery as morally wrong. However, unlike the West, it does consider 'usury' morally wrong. The definition of 'usury' is quite broad and applies basically to any payment of interest, on a bank account or any other investment. In UK, special forms of mortgage, for example, have been introduced, which do not offend Islamic doctrine. Cultural differences which often create serious difficulties, but it's something that mankind has to accommodate. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK |