From: David Brown on 14 Aug 2006 04:28 Eeyore wrote: > > Jim Yanik wrote: > >> Hey,Iran is clever;they use Lebanon and Gaza as their >> battlefields,Hezbollah and Hamas as their mercenaries,Syria as a buffer. >> Iran itself hasn't risked much at all. > > Your point is ? > > Graham > Perhaps he means to say they are as bad as the Americans, who use the Israeli military as mercenaries.
From: David Brown on 14 Aug 2006 04:53 John Larkin wrote: > On 11 Aug 2006 04:46:30 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > > It's interesting how obsessed europeans seem to be with American > politics. Since their function in the world is largely passive by > choice, and since enormous messes remain of their direct making, I > should think they'd be content to spend their days on holiday, > wine-tasting or whatever they do for amusement. > > It's the fish-or-cut-bait thing. > > John > American politics is far more entertaining than a lot of European politics. Here in Norway, the government is formed by a coalition - it doesn't really make a big difference who you vote for, because they all get together to argue out a compromise afterwards. But on the other side of the Atlantic, a half percent of votes stolen here or there makes a huge difference to the country and the rest of the world. It's the same with scandals - if our prime minister had an affair, people would say it's between him and his wife, while a little indiscretion by your previous president brought your country to a halt.
From: Jim Yanik on 14 Aug 2006 10:14 David Brown <david(a)westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in news:44e03429$1(a)news.wineasy.se: > Eeyore wrote: >> >> Jim Yanik wrote: >> >>> Hey,Iran is clever;they use Lebanon and Gaza as their >>> battlefields,Hezbollah and Hamas as their mercenaries,Syria as a >>> buffer. Iran itself hasn't risked much at all. >> >> Your point is ? >> >> Graham Way over YOUR head,Grammy. > > Perhaps he means to say they are as bad as the Americans, who use the > Israeli military as mercenaries. > Yes,due to our wussy liberal/Democrat/socialists,who are all to ready to sell out Israel,the US has not come down fully on Israel's side. As to using them as "mercenaries",I suppose you can cite an example of when and where the US has done this? (Paid them to fight for us.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: Jim Yanik on 14 Aug 2006 10:16 David Brown <david(a)westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in news:44e039f5(a)news.wineasy.se: > John Larkin wrote: >> On 11 Aug 2006 04:46:30 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> > > It's interesting how obsessed europeans seem to be with American >> politics. Since their function in the world is largely passive by >> choice, and since enormous messes remain of their direct making, I >> should think they'd be content to spend their days on holiday, >> wine-tasting or whatever they do for amusement. >> >> It's the fish-or-cut-bait thing. >> >> John >> > > American politics is far more entertaining than a lot of European > politics. Here in Norway, the government is formed by a coalition - it > doesn't really make a big difference who you vote for, because they all > get together to argue out a compromise afterwards. But on the other > side of the Atlantic, a half percent of votes stolen here or there makes > a huge difference to the country and the rest of the world. It's the > same with scandals - if our prime minister had an affair, people would > say it's between him and his wife, while a little indiscretion by your > previous president brought your country to a halt. > "stolen" votes? any credibility you had has evaporated. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: John Larkin on 14 Aug 2006 10:42
On 14 Aug 2006 10:53:09 +0200, David Brown <david(a)westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On 11 Aug 2006 04:46:30 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> > > It's interesting how obsessed europeans seem to be with American >> politics. Since their function in the world is largely passive by >> choice, and since enormous messes remain of their direct making, I >> should think they'd be content to spend their days on holiday, >> wine-tasting or whatever they do for amusement. >> >> It's the fish-or-cut-bait thing. >> >> John >> > >American politics is far more entertaining than a lot of European >politics. Here in Norway, the government is formed by a coalition - it >doesn't really make a big difference who you vote for, because they all >get together to argue out a compromise afterwards. But on the other >side of the Atlantic, a half percent of votes stolen here or there makes >a huge difference to the country and the rest of the world. It's the >same with scandals - if our prime minister had an affair, people would >say it's between him and his wife, while a little indiscretion by your >previous president brought your country to a halt. One electron can tip a metastable flipflop one way or the other. I think that close elections mean that the system is working, that both parties - we have two real parties for other reasons - are both forced to servo towards the center, and both are forced to contain their lunatic wings. You probably have fewer lunatics in Norway, another reason your politics is dull. All your real nut cases emigrated here ages ago. John |