From: Rich Grise on 14 Aug 2006 16:25 On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:20:36 +0000, Ken Smith wrote: > In article <WY$D6HTbwv3EFwg0(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk>, John Woodgate > <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>In message <44DEF7A3.9E134685(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug >>2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >> >>>A *collosal* mistake in fact. It might conceivably have turned events >>>around but the White House wanted to use Halliburton for Iraqi >>>reconstruction ( pork politics ) rather than the Iraqis themselves and >>>the seeds of hate and division were sown. >> >>It wasn't a brilliant move, but think of the 'pork' that would have been >>involved if Iraqi companies had won the contracts. And how much materiel >>would have found its way into Hisbollah fortifications? > > If the contracts were kept small and to the point. Only a small fraction > would have ended up in Hisbolla's hands. Hisbolla is a shia group. They > don't have very strong support from the other sects. The materiel would > be bulky to move. The bigger issue would be the money which is easy to > move. > > If the US had given enough of the Iraqis jobs, they would have been busy > working instead of busily thinking of ways to cause trouble. > >>The contracts should, of course, have been awarded to British >>contractors, who are wholly incorruptible and supremely efficient. > > Actually, they should have been given to the French who are supremely > inefficient and would thus have employed the entire population of the > country. > Here's the way I heard it: In Heaven, the British run the police, the Germans do the repairs, the Swiss run the railroads, the French do the cooking, and the Italians are the lovers. In Hell, the Germans run the police, the French do the repairs, the Italians run the railroads, the British do the cooking, and the Swiss are the lovers. ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 14 Aug 2006 16:29 On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 10:53:42 +0100, John Woodgate wrote: > In message <h92dnV0d1tgnf0PZRVny3w(a)bt.com>, dated Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Reg > Edwards <g4fgq.regp(a)ZZZbtinternet.com> writes >> >>"Phat Bytestard" wrote >>> Saddam was killing people from the moment he was released from >>prison >>> in 1969 to the moment we put him back in one. >>===================================== >> >>Saddam was doing his best for his country. >> >> > Initially. So was Hitler - initially. I call Godwin's Rule! http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/legends/godwin/ ;-) Cheers! Rich
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 14 Aug 2006 16:41 On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:16:00 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote: > David Brown <david(a)westcontrol.removethisbit.com> wrote in >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On 11 Aug 2006 04:46:30 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>> >> > It's interesting how obsessed europeans seem to be with American >>> politics. Since their function in the world is largely passive by >>> choice, and since enormous messes remain of their direct making, I >>> should think they'd be content to spend their days on holiday, >>> wine-tasting or whatever they do for amusement. >>> >>> It's the fish-or-cut-bait thing. >>> >> American politics is far more entertaining than a lot of European >> politics. Here in Norway, the government is formed by a coalition - it >> doesn't really make a big difference who you vote for, because they all >> get together to argue out a compromise afterwards. But on the other >> side of the Atlantic, a half percent of votes stolen here or there makes >> a huge difference to the country and the rest of the world. It's the >> same with scandals - if our prime minister had an affair, people would >> say it's between him and his wife, while a little indiscretion by your >> previous president brought your country to a halt. >> >> > "stolen" votes? > > any credibility you had has evaporated. But you're a Bushist. You're about the least qualified to comment on "credibility", along with Thompson, Terrell, and Bloggs. Cheers! Rich
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 14 Aug 2006 16:44 On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 21:10:55 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Eeyore wrote: >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >> >> > I was just trying to figure out why John chose one verse out of >> > context. >> >> Selective use of 'scriptures' is what fundamentalists of all persuasions >> typically do to brainwash their followers. > > I wouldn't know. I was taught that if you are going to study the > Bible you are to study the entire Bible, not take parts of it out of > context. You must have missed the "Thou shalt not kill" part. Cheers! Rich
From: John Woodgate on 14 Aug 2006 17:04
In message <44E0D72D.A6C6C00D(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Mon, 14 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >I suppose we're just gullible fools. Or Blair is ! Might have something >to do with the unpopularity of the USA over here btw. Yes, the US government are regarded as fallible ghouls. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK |