From: John Larkin on 16 Aug 2006 10:33 On 15 Aug 2006 20:04:03 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: >> On 15 Aug 2006 16:09:53 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> > >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> On 14 Aug 2006 17:56:13 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >A couple of years ago, when I was more active, I did get down to 74 kgm >> >> >-163 lbs - pretty much what I weighed in my early twenties - which put >> >> >my BMI around 23 - the same as yours - which is low for a resident of >> >> >the U.S.A. >> >> >> >> Two europeans in this ng have recently generalized that Americans are >> >> overweight. And both of them admit to being overweight. >> > >> >Check out the facts - about 60% of Americans are overweight (BMI over >> >25) and half of them are obese (BMI over 30) >> > >> >http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml >> > >> >Europe isn't as bad >> > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bmi30chart.png >> > >> >I don't think that my BMI of 25.3 - back to 25.12 today - is a >> >significant counter-example. >> >> So your being overweight is somehow mitigated by other europeans being >> thinner than the average American? This somehow makes you not a >> "lardass"? > >It makes Eurosheep less suitable for finding landmines tuned for >American lardasses. > >> My apologies, but I don't follow that logic; this carries >> nationalism (or is it europeanism?) to lengths I just don't >> understand. > >Sicne you have just devised an ad hominum argument - a well known >logical fallacy - it isn't altogether surprising that you can't follow >the logic, that you have disingenuously set up. Gosh, I seemed to have stumbled into the Fat Ladies Debating Society. My point was that it's weird for a couple of admitted chubbies to be criticizing an entire country for being overweight, and debating a slim (and rather handsome) American over the issue. John
From: John Larkin on 16 Aug 2006 10:36 On 16 Aug 2006 04:45:08 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: >> On 15 Aug 2006 01:48:35 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> >> >Look at what Dubya - and his enthusiastic supporters in ENRON - have >> >done to the U.S. before you restrict that problem to Third World >> >governments. >> >> I wonder why the principals of Enron are enthusiastic supporters of W. >> Perhaps they enjoy prison? > >"Have done" refers to the past. The unpricipled principals of Eron were >enthusiastic supporters of Dubya in Texas and equally enthusiastic >about his bid for the presidency. They donated to both parties, and were pretty chummy with Bubba, too. They went wild while Clinton "it's the economy, stupid" was in charge, and are going to prison while Bush is in charge. Twist that as you please. John
From: John Woodgate on 16 Aug 2006 10:36 In message <gea6e2hulrq4nnsibqkodra1vpd0aq0jo1(a)4ax.com>, dated Wed, 16 Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes >Mercedes are boring and ugly to boot. .....and European, of course. Buy a Rover! (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: jasen on 16 Aug 2006 06:55 On 2006-08-15, John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <44E18508.E2558F08(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 15 Aug > 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes > >>LOL ! I can't do cube roots but I can do most dB calculations in my >>head to a useful degree of accuracy. > > dBs are easy once you learn a few key facts, just like you need for > adding and subtracting (like 'eight and five are thirteen'). > > For voltage or current: > 1 dB = factor of 1.25 > 3 dB = factor of 1.4 > 5 dB = factor of root 10 = 3.2 > 6 dB = factor of 2 > 10 dB = factor of 3 eh? 5>10 ? -- Bye. Jasen
From: bill.sloman on 16 Aug 2006 10:50
John Larkin wrote: > On 15 Aug 2006 20:10:25 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > > >What survivors? Asteroid impacts that have had the same sort of > >consequences tend to kill off all the big, slow-breeding land animals - > >everything heavier than a few kilograms. > > > >It takes a few million years before the small, fast-breeding stuff > >evolves variants to fiill all the empty niches. > > So whales and elephants evolved from mice, in a few million years? I > never knew that! Good thing too. It isn't true. For whales "The short answer is that the best available evidence is that whales evolved from a terrestrial ancestor that resembled a wolf or hyaena, only with its five toes ending in small hooves rather than claws. This ancestral species belonged to a group called the mesonychids, or was closely related to them." For elephants "Subclass Eutheria Among the orders emanating from the subclass Eutheria are three that are closely related. Order Hyracoidea: Modern descendants are the hyraxes. African rodent-like animals the size of rabbits. Order Sirenia: Modern descendants are manatees and dugongs (sea cows). Seal-like mammals living entirely in water. Order Proboscidea: The order of modern elephants" So it would seem the both evolved from something closer in size to a rabbit than a mouse, The mouse is a relatively small rodent, so no more closely related to elephants or whales than we are (and more closely related to us than either). http://biology.plosjournals.org/perlserv?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pbio.0040111 -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |