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From: bill.sloman on 16 Aug 2006 11:03 John Larkin wrote: > On 15 Aug 2006 20:04:03 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On 15 Aug 2006 16:09:53 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On 14 Aug 2006 17:56:13 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >A couple of years ago, when I was more active, I did get down to 74 kgm > >> >> >-163 lbs - pretty much what I weighed in my early twenties - which put > >> >> >my BMI around 23 - the same as yours - which is low for a resident of > >> >> >the U.S.A. > >> >> > >> >> Two europeans in this ng have recently generalized that Americans are > >> >> overweight. And both of them admit to being overweight. > >> > > >> >Check out the facts - about 60% of Americans are overweight (BMI over > >> >25) and half of them are obese (BMI over 30) > >> > > >> >http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml > >> > > >> >Europe isn't as bad > >> > > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bmi30chart.png > >> > > >> >I don't think that my BMI of 25.3 - back to 25.12 today - is a > >> >significant counter-example. > >> > >> So your being overweight is somehow mitigated by other europeans being > >> thinner than the average American? This somehow makes you not a > >> "lardass"? > > > >It makes Eurosheep less suitable for finding landmines tuned for > >American lardasses. > > > >> My apologies, but I don't follow that logic; this carries > >> nationalism (or is it europeanism?) to lengths I just don't > >> understand. > > > >Sicne you have just devised an ad hominum argument - a well known > >logical fallacy - it isn't altogether surprising that you can't follow > >the logic, that you have disingenuously set up. > > Gosh, I seemed to have stumbled into the Fat Ladies Debating Society. > > My point was that it's weird for a couple of admitted chubbies to be > criticizing an entire country for being overweight, and debating a > slim (and rather handsome) American over the issue. The fact that I'm technically overweight ( by about a pound but watch this space) doesn't have much to do with the statistical evidence that the U.S, has an obesity problem, with around 30% of the population having a BMI over 30. Even in the worst of the Europen countries the proportion is lower - closer to 20% - and you see many fewer grossly fat people. Europe - notably the U.K. and Germany - does perceive itself as having an obesity problem, but yours is substantially worse. You may be willing to sit in front of a mirror and contemplate the perfection of your figure - most people I've known who might have been able to do that were too busy at the gym working on perceived imperfections to enjoy that particular pleasure - but it makes no difference to the fact that you are sitting in the middle of a malnourished and overweight society. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: John Woodgate on 16 Aug 2006 10:53 In message <4ra6e2lpi7mtpk3n2pt6541ollphb267rm(a)4ax.com>, dated Wed, 16 Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes >On 15 Aug 2006 20:10:25 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >>What survivors? Asteroid impacts that have had the same sort of >>consequences tend to kill off all the big, slow-breeding land animals - >>everything heavier than a few kilograms. >> >>It takes a few million years before the small, fast-breeding stuff >>evolves variants to fiill all the empty niches. > >So whales and elephants evolved from mice, in a few million years? I >never knew that! > Not exactly mice, more like shrews. Google for 'Morganucodon'. Before whales went back into the sea, they were rather like dogs, and seals were very like dogs. Elephants were rather like 'rock rabbits', Hyrax, until they grew up. Google again. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on 16 Aug 2006 11:00 In message <ebutip$b8l$2(a)gonzo.homenet>, dated Wed, 16 Aug 2006, jasen <jasen(a)free.net.nz> writes >On 2006-08-15, John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> In message <44E18508.E2558F08(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 15 Aug >> 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >> >>>LOL ! I can't do cube roots but I can do most dB calculations in my >>>head to a useful degree of accuracy. >> >> dBs are easy once you learn a few key facts, just like you need for >> adding and subtracting (like 'eight and five are thirteen'). >> >> For voltage or current: >> 1 dB = factor of 1.25 >> 3 dB = factor of 1.4 >> 5 dB = factor of root 10 = 3.2 >> 6 dB = factor of 2 >> 10 dB = factor of 3 > >eh? 5>10 ? > > Ah, you spotted the deliberate mistake! (You do believe me, don't you?) 10 dB = factor of root 10 = 3.2 5 dB = factor of root 3.2 = 1.8 -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Eeyore on 16 Aug 2006 11:08 Jim Yanik wrote: > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote in > news:kYXP61DHOr4EFwff(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk: > > > In message <pan.2006.08.16.23.38.57.901370(a)example.net>, dated Tue, 15 > > Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> writes > > > >>> I've read that Hezbollah would often seize Lebanese people's > >>> property for their terrorist purposes.That's besides levying taxes > >>> for their "civil" operations.(part of those levies also got used for > >>> terror purposes) > >> > >>That's odd - not too long ago, I had heard that the Hezbollah was > >>democratically elected. > > So,it would be OK for one of your country's political parties to levy taxes > of their own,in their wards,not part of the government's taxes? > And then use it for their own purposes? > I suspect ol' Rich would scream bloody murder. In return for those 'taxes' you get social welfare benefits that the government doesn't offer. > I wonder what happens if a Lebanese resident does NOT pay the Hezbollah > taxes? I suspect it's not pretty. They don't get the benefits I guess. Graham
From: Eeyore on 16 Aug 2006 11:08
John Larkin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 05:43:54 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: > > >The concept of free speech was never designed for the yahoo likes of you who > >find the free speech of others not to your liking. > > Spoken like a genuine Liberal! Thank you for this classic line; I just > love this sort of reasoning. Spammers tend to use the same 'free speech' argument too btw. Graham |