From: Tim Auton on 15 Aug 2006 17:43 Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote: > > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> writes > >> > >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane > >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and killing > >> >their families". > >> > >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary. > > > > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against my > > will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for them... > > But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to defend. > > And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard either. That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my garden and I couldn't defend it any more. Tim
From: Jim Yanik on 15 Aug 2006 18:32 tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY (Tim Auton) wrote in news:1hk4tsn.1f2bkty385m9zN%tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY: > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote: >> > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> >> >> writes >> >> >> >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane >> >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and >> >> >killing their families". >> >> >> >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary. >> > >> > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against >> > my will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for >> > them... >> >> But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to >> defend. >> >> And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard >> either. > > That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back > garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my > garden and I couldn't defend it any more. > > > Tim > I've read that Hezbollah would often seize Lebanese people's property for their terrorist purposes.That's besides levying taxes for their "civil" operations.(part of those levies also got used for terror purposes) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net
From: bill.sloman on 15 Aug 2006 19:09 John Larkin wrote: > On 14 Aug 2006 17:56:13 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > > > > > > >A couple of years ago, when I was more active, I did get down to 74 kgm > >-163 lbs - pretty much what I weighed in my early twenties - which put > >my BMI around 23 - the same as yours - which is low for a resident of > >the U.S.A. > > Two europeans in this ng have recently generalized that Americans are > overweight. And both of them admit to being overweight. Check out the facts - about 60% of Americans are overweight (BMI over 25) and half of them are obese (BMI over 30) http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml Europe isn't as bad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bmi30chart.png I don't think that my BMI of 25.3 - back to 25.12 today - is a significant counter-example. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 15 Aug 2006 19:40 On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:32:58 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote: > tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY (Tim Auton) wrote in >> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote: >>> > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> writes >>> >> >>> >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane >>> >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and killing >>> >> >their families". >>> >> >>> >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary. >>> > >>> > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against >>> > my will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for >>> > them... >>> >>> But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to >>> defend. >>> >>> And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard >>> either. >> >> That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back >> garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my >> garden and I couldn't defend it any more. >> >> > I've read that Hezbollah would often seize Lebanese people's property for > their terrorist purposes.That's besides levying taxes for their "civil" > operations.(part of those levies also got used for terror purposes) That's odd - not too long ago, I had heard that the Hezbollah was democratically elected. But I guess democracy isn't approved when they elect somebody you don't like. Feh. Rich
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 15 Aug 2006 19:52
bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > John Larkin wrote: >> On 14 Aug 2006 15:28:06 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >>>>> Sorry, we aren't fat enough to set off landmines tailored for American >>>>> lardasses. >>>> Hey, Bill, how much do you weigh? >>> 78.6 kilo - 173 lbs - and I'm 176cm tall - 5' 9.5" I really must get >>> back to 74 kgm. >> >> Well, I'm 5-8 and keep between 155 and 160, so I'm a tad less >> lardassey than you are. Mo gets on my case if I go below 155... she >> doesn't like skinny men... and she weighs 105! > > Doctrine is that a body mass index (weight in kilograms divided by the > height in metres squared) should be between 20 and 24. Over 25 and you > are overweight, over thirty and you are obese. > I guess Governor Terminator in his prime was utterly obese. Dirk |