From: Tim Auton on
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote:
> > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> writes
> >>
> >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane
> >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and killing
> >> >their families".
> >>
> >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary.
> >
> > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against my
> > will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for them...
>
> But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to defend.
>
> And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard either.

That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back
garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my
garden and I couldn't defend it any more.


Tim
From: Jim Yanik on
tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY (Tim Auton) wrote in
news:1hk4tsn.1f2bkty385m9zN%tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY:

> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote:
>> > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net>
>> >> writes
>> >>
>> >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane
>> >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and
>> >> >killing their families".
>> >>
>> >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary.
>> >
>> > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against
>> > my will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for
>> > them...
>>
>> But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to
>> defend.
>>
>> And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard
>> either.
>
> That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back
> garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my
> garden and I couldn't defend it any more.
>
>
> Tim
>

I've read that Hezbollah would often seize Lebanese people's property for
their terrorist purposes.That's besides levying taxes for their "civil"
operations.(part of those levies also got used for terror purposes)


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
From: bill.sloman on

John Larkin wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2006 17:56:13 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> >A couple of years ago, when I was more active, I did get down to 74 kgm
> >-163 lbs - pretty much what I weighed in my early twenties - which put
> >my BMI around 23 - the same as yours - which is low for a resident of
> >the U.S.A.
>
> Two europeans in this ng have recently generalized that Americans are
> overweight. And both of them admit to being overweight.

Check out the facts - about 60% of Americans are overweight (BMI over
25) and half of them are obese (BMI over 30)

http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml

Europe isn't as bad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bmi30chart.png

I don't think that my BMI of 25.3 - back to 25.12 today - is a
significant counter-example.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 22:32:58 +0000, Jim Yanik wrote:
> tim.auton(a)auton.groupSexWithoutTheY (Tim Auton) wrote in
>> Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:04:04 +0100, Tim Auton wrote:
>>> > John Woodgate <jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> >> Aug 2006, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <null(a)example.net> writes
>>> >>
>>> >> >And you need a new dictionary. The meaning of "defense" that sane
>>> >> >people go by doesn't include "assaulting your neighbors and killing
>>> >> >their families".
>>> >>
>>> >> Ah, but it IS so defined in the Hisbollah dictionary.
>>> >
>>> > If a bunch of terrorists came and moved into my back garden against
>>> > my will I'm not sure 'neighbours' would be the word I'd use for
>>> > them...
>>>
>>> But, you see, they're ON YOUR PROPERTY, which you have a right to
>>> defend.
>>>
>>> And, by the same token, you're not allowed to invade his back yard
>>> either.
>>
>> That kinda changes when my back garden gets declared *their* back
>> garden. You'd have a pretty tough job persuading me that it wasn't my
>> garden and I couldn't defend it any more.
>>
>>
> I've read that Hezbollah would often seize Lebanese people's property for
> their terrorist purposes.That's besides levying taxes for their "civil"
> operations.(part of those levies also got used for terror purposes)

That's odd - not too long ago, I had heard that the Hezbollah was
democratically elected.

But I guess democracy isn't approved when they elect somebody you don't
like.

Feh.
Rich

From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:
>> On 14 Aug 2006 15:28:06 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote:
>>
>>>>> Sorry, we aren't fat enough to set off landmines tailored for American
>>>>> lardasses.
>>>> Hey, Bill, how much do you weigh?
>>> 78.6 kilo - 173 lbs - and I'm 176cm tall - 5' 9.5" I really must get
>>> back to 74 kgm.
>>
>> Well, I'm 5-8 and keep between 155 and 160, so I'm a tad less
>> lardassey than you are. Mo gets on my case if I go below 155... she
>> doesn't like skinny men... and she weighs 105!
>
> Doctrine is that a body mass index (weight in kilograms divided by the
> height in metres squared) should be between 20 and 24. Over 25 and you
> are overweight, over thirty and you are obese.
>

I guess Governor Terminator in his prime was utterly obese.

Dirk