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From: John Larkin on 16 Aug 2006 12:00 On 16 Aug 2006 08:03:09 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: >> On 15 Aug 2006 20:04:03 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> > >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> On 15 Aug 2006 16:09:53 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> >> On 14 Aug 2006 17:56:13 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >A couple of years ago, when I was more active, I did get down to 74 kgm >> >> >> >-163 lbs - pretty much what I weighed in my early twenties - which put >> >> >> >my BMI around 23 - the same as yours - which is low for a resident of >> >> >> >the U.S.A. >> >> >> >> >> >> Two europeans in this ng have recently generalized that Americans are >> >> >> overweight. And both of them admit to being overweight. >> >> > >> >> >Check out the facts - about 60% of Americans are overweight (BMI over >> >> >25) and half of them are obese (BMI over 30) >> >> > >> >> >http://www.obesity.org/subs/fastfacts/Obesity_Minority_Pop.shtml >> >> > >> >> >Europe isn't as bad >> >> > >> >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bmi30chart.png >> >> > >> >> >I don't think that my BMI of 25.3 - back to 25.12 today - is a >> >> >significant counter-example. >> >> >> >> So your being overweight is somehow mitigated by other europeans being >> >> thinner than the average American? This somehow makes you not a >> >> "lardass"? >> > >> >It makes Eurosheep less suitable for finding landmines tuned for >> >American lardasses. >> > >> >> My apologies, but I don't follow that logic; this carries >> >> nationalism (or is it europeanism?) to lengths I just don't >> >> understand. >> > >> >Sicne you have just devised an ad hominum argument - a well known >> >logical fallacy - it isn't altogether surprising that you can't follow >> >the logic, that you have disingenuously set up. >> >> Gosh, I seemed to have stumbled into the Fat Ladies Debating Society. >> >> My point was that it's weird for a couple of admitted chubbies to be >> criticizing an entire country for being overweight, and debating a >> slim (and rather handsome) American over the issue. > >The fact that I'm technically overweight ( by about a pound but watch >this space) doesn't have much to do with the statistical evidence that >the U.S, has an obesity problem, with around 30% of the population >having a BMI over 30. Even in the worst of the Europen countries the >proportion is lower - closer to 20% - and you see many fewer grossly >fat people. > >Europe - notably the U.K. and Germany - does perceive itself as having >an obesity problem, but yours is substantially worse. > >You may be willing to sit in front of a mirror and contemplate the >perfection of your figure - most people I've known who might have been >able to do that were too busy at the gym working on perceived >imperfections to enjoy that particular pleasure - but it makes no >difference to the fact that you are sitting in the middle of a >malnourished and overweight society. I live in California. Everybody is buffed and beautiful here. John
From: Keith on 16 Aug 2006 12:00 In article <AZZWaKi+1y4EFwrT(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk>, jmw(a)jmwa.demon.co.uk says... > In message <gea6e2hulrq4nnsibqkodra1vpd0aq0jo1(a)4ax.com>, dated Wed, 16 > Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> > writes > >Mercedes are boring and ugly to boot. > > ....and European, of course. Buy a Rover! (;-) A Ford? -- Keith
From: John Woodgate on 16 Aug 2006 12:20 In message <63g6e2hsub8jhcp0mht8aqsqprupgheu8l(a)4ax.com>, dated Wed, 16 Aug 2006, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> writes >But asteroids killed off all the things like dogs. Sloman told me so. One of you has the timing wrong. When the asteroid did for the dinos, the mammals were still Morganucodon types. They didn't get bigger until after the dinos had gone and the climate had recovered. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: John Woodgate on 16 Aug 2006 12:23 In message <44E3367D.668DD444(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes >1dB's wrong too ! Tssk tssk ! You didn't need to post that twice. Yes, it's wrong. 1 dB is a factor of 1.12 I should learn NOT to do numbers early in the morning. How long did it take you to work it out? -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK
From: Rich, but drunk on 16 Aug 2006 12:49
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:52:28 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >> John Larkin wrote: >>> On 14 Aug 2006 15:28:06 -0700, bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: >>> >>>>>> Sorry, we aren't fat enough to set off landmines tailored for American >>>>>> lardasses. >>>>> Hey, Bill, how much do you weigh? >>>> 78.6 kilo - 173 lbs - and I'm 176cm tall - 5' 9.5" I really must get >>>> back to 74 kgm. >>> >>> Well, I'm 5-8 and keep between 155 and 160, so I'm a tad less >>> lardassey than you are. Mo gets on my case if I go below 155... she >>> doesn't like skinny men... and she weighs 105! >> >> Doctrine is that a body mass index (weight in kilograms divided by the >> height in metres squared) should be between 20 and 24. Over 25 and you >> are overweight, over thirty and you are obese. > > I guess Governor Terminator in his prime was utterly obese. > http://www.abiengr.com/~sysop/PrettierThanAhnold.html Cheers! Rich |