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From: Ian McCall on 17 Jul 2010 02:09 On 2010-07-17 00:08:51 +0100, iballooka <kamtek(a)nospamtoday.hotmail.com> said: > I am thinking that Apple will quietly do a modification inside the > phone and "fix" the problem, rumours have it they are already looking > at this, waiting a few months will be a plus..... One of the RSS feeds I'm on, I forget which unfortunately, think things point to a refresh in October. They're extrapolating from 'a source' and from the fact the free case offer is only until September 30th. It's all a bit 'start of 4th quarter' really, which again is typical business/manufacturing scheduling. For me, it's just convinced me completely to not buy - I don't like cases and bits of rubber for phones. I'll re-evaluate in December when I'm out of contract and see if this October redesign is true, otherwise I'm out for this generation and will wait until iPhone 5. A shame as I'd make good use of that improved camera and I also like the screen, but I don't like the physical appearance of the 4 compared to the 3GS and on a colleague's at work I can reproduce the problem in moments - dropping the signal right down to zero just in the normal way I hold the phone when using apps. That 0.55% figure is seriously dubious. 0.55% of customers who have bought AppleCare for a start, so probably not the majority of owners. Next up is the fact that most already know Apple knows there's a problem and were waiting on an announcement for them - that's certainly true of the three people I know who have the phone, none of whom have called Apple but all of whom are seeing the problem. For balance though, two of those three say it's not affecting them much in real life whereas the other one is contemplating taking the refund offer. And if we further drill into the anecdote, the two who say it's not affecting them much are in the UK whereas the guy thinking of taking it back is in the States (moving primarily between Charlotte and New York). Still, too much noise around this one for my liking and I'm out of the market for the time being. Being out of the market for just a few more days means I lose O2's upgrade offer (expires on 27th), so at that point I may as well wait until Dec to see if any manufacturing changes happen. If not, roll on iPhone 5. Cheers, Ian
From: iballooka on 17 Jul 2010 04:42 On 2010-07-17 07:09:52 +0100, Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> said: > On 2010-07-17 00:08:51 +0100, iballooka <kamtek(a)nospamtoday.hotmail.com> said: >> I am thinking that Apple will quietly do a modification inside the >> phone and "fix" the problem, rumours have it they are already looking >> at this, waiting a few months will be a plus..... > > One of the RSS feeds I'm on, I forget which unfortunately, think things > point to a refresh in October. They're extrapolating from 'a source' > and from the fact the free case offer is only until September 30th. > It's all a bit 'start of 4th quarter' really, which again is typical > business/manufacturing scheduling. Apple do not give away money, they have one focus point and that is to make money... The end of September is about right do the lauch in all countries then update they will have figure they expect for returns and it makes sense to take any hits on bottom in a new quarter which is a peak quarter Christmas sales... If the uptake in other countries due this month is poor then they will look again.... > > For me, it's just convinced me completely to not buy - I don't like > cases and bits of rubber for phones. I'll re-evaluate in December when > I'm out of contract and see if this October redesign is true, otherwise > I'm out for this generation and will wait until iPhone 5. A shame as > I'd make good use of that improved camera and I also like the screen, > but I don't like the physical appearance of the 4 compared to the 3GS > and on a colleague's at work I can reproduce the problem in moments - > dropping the signal right down to zero just in the normal way I hold > the phone when using apps. I didn't buy, bought 2 16 GB 3gs phones at a good price, quite happy with mine No 1 has to wait for his birthday.... I hate cases and to have use one so the phone works is a definite NO/NO..... Aa for the shape and feel of the new phone it is horrible..... > > That 0.55% figure is seriously dubious. 0.55% of customers who have > bought AppleCare for a start, so probably not the majority of owners. > Next up is the fact that most already know Apple knows there's a > problem and were waiting on an announcement for them - that's certainly > true of the three people I know who have the phone, none of whom have > called Apple but all of whom are seeing the problem. For balance > though, two of those three say it's not affecting them much in real > life whereas the other one is contemplating taking the refund offer. > And if we further drill into the anecdote, the two who say it's not > affecting them much are in the UK whereas the guy thinking of taking it > back is in the States (moving primarily between Charlotte and New York). I suspect signal strengths in the USA are more problamatic than here in the UK on the whole we seem to have good signals for majority of the UK yes there will blackspots, most will be happy with there new iPhone a few will have issues as this is clearly shown by many complaints... > > Still, too much noise around this one for my liking and I'm out of the > market for the time being. Being out of the market for just a few more > days means I lose O2's upgrade offer (expires on 27th), so at that > point I may as well wait until Dec to see if any manufacturing changes > happen. If not, roll on iPhone 5. 02 seem to have kept a low profile on this launch and continue to do so, maybe they saw problems and said lets wait and see, regardless of the issues there is a waiting list for the latest iPhone people will buy it just to say they have the latest, for me I will wait....I am in no hurry now as I a nice useable phone which I know I can sell on ebay and break even maybe make a small profit, after all �270.00 for brand new sealed 16 gb 3gs was a good buy..... >snip Have a nice day... -- Mike Peace and Happiness is a State of Mind....
From: D.M. Procida on 17 Jul 2010 04:49 Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > Am I missing posts here, or has nobody made any comments on the press > conference of 5 hours ago? It was all a bit inconclusive. No real satisfaction for either the fanbois or the haterz. Daniele
From: zoara on 17 Jul 2010 15:38 Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote: > On 2010-07-17 00:08:51 +0100, iballooka > <kamtek(a)nospamtoday.hotmail.com> said: >> I am thinking that Apple will quietly do a modification inside the > > > phone and "fix" the problem, rumours have it they are already > > looking > at this, waiting a few months will be a plus..... > > One of the RSS feeds I'm on, I forget which unfortunately, think > things point to a refresh in October. They're extrapolating from 'a > source' and from the fact the free case offer is only until September > 30th. It's all a bit 'start of 4th quarter' really, which again is > typical business/manufacturing scheduling. Hmm. I'd like to see that report if you can dig it out. > For me, it's just convinced me completely to not buy - I don't like > cases and bits of rubber for phones. Same here. The "just use a case and move on" attitude (first of the blogosphere then of Apple) annoys me because cases cause more faff that I want from such an expensive purchase. This cable doesn't fit, that car cradle doesn't work, this dock doesn't work, it ends up bigger than a 3GS, the fit isn't always great, etc etc. > I'll re-evaluate in December when I'm out of contract and see if this > October redesign is true, otherwise I'm out for this generation and > will wait until iPhone 5. I'm out of contract. I'm going to try to see if I can teach myself to hold my phone differently (I can't believe I'm writing that) and if not I'll get a 3GS off eBay. If a redesign comes, I'll trade it back in; if not, I'll wait for the 5. > A shame as I'd make good use of that improved camera and I also like > the screen, Ditto. > but I don't like the physical appearance of the 4 compared to the 3GS Not really fussed about the appearance. > and on a colleague's at work I can reproduce the problem in moments - > dropping the signal right down to zero just in the normal way I hold > the phone when using apps. Yeah, same here. > That 0.55% figure is seriously dubious. 0.55% of customers who have > bought AppleCare for a start, so probably not the majority of owners. I'm also unhappy about the "one more call dropped per hundred versus the 3GS" figure. If the 3GS only drops one call per thousand then the 4 is ten times worse. > Next up is the fact that most already know Apple knows there's a > problem and were waiting on an announcement for them - that's > certainly true of the three people I know who have the phone, none of > whom have called Apple but all of whom are seeing the problem. And those who are not buying the phone because of the problems. [snip] > Still, too much noise around this one for my liking and I'm out of the > market for the time being. Too much noise (including from Apple) to work out what the problem is and whether there's a solution other than the iPhone 5. Noise as in "not signal". It's not clear what's happening. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: zoara on 17 Jul 2010 15:38
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > Am I missing posts here, or has nobody made any comments on the press > conference of 5 hours ago? Perhaps everyone was stunned at the audacity of the attempted Jedi mind trick. "There is no problem here". http://j.mp/aFP6h2 -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm |