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From: nospam on 11 May 2010 15:27 In article <4be99b90$0$1674$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote: > Still, having used Windows 7, I worry about the computer side of things. > They're going to need to do something about OS-X if they want to gain > market share. they *are* gaining market share. > On the phone side of things, they're going to have to address the > problem of having their platform on a single carrier in the U.S. since > they're losing ground to Android by continuing to not offer phones on > Verizon, T-Mobile, or Sprint. apple and at&t has said the exclusivity is not forever. there are plenty of rumours about apple and verizon (always have been), including a new one today about an advertising campaign in progress.
From: nospam on 11 May 2010 15:38 In article <michelle-B533C1.12332311052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > > apple and at&t has said the exclusivity is not forever. there are plenty > > of rumours about apple and verizon (always have been), including a new > > one today about an advertising campaign in progress. > > Well, more like an advertising campaign in development. yea, that's what i meant. they haven't started advertising anything, they're supposedly working on it. there *will* be an iphone on verizon when lte deploys, along with everyone else who supports lte. realistically, that will be next year, even though there may be a few areas with it later this year. the question is whether there will be an iphone on something other than at&t *this* year. that means cdma or 3g-aws, but maybe it will be lte-ready.
From: JF Mezei on 11 May 2010 16:42 nospam wrote: > the question is whether there will be an iphone on something other than > at&t *this* year. that means cdma or 3g-aws, but maybe it will be > lte-ready. Late last year, Apple ended Rogers' exclusivity in Canada by allowing Bell and Telus (who have just converted to GSM from CDMA) to also sell the iPhone. The first step would be to open the iphone to other GSM carriers in the USA. Problem is that tmobile uses 1700 for 3g if I am not mistaken. There are a couple of new entrants in Canada who will also be using 1700. There are some additional smaller GSM carriers in the USA which may be using frequencies compatible with existing iphones. So it looks like we'd have to wait for the next product refresh to include the 1700 band, at which point, Apple could end AT&T's exclusivity. But until it happens, there isn't much point in ending AT&T's exclusive deal. Having said this, Apple could, today, start to sell unlocked iphones at a reasonable price for travellers. In terms of Apple developping a CDMA phone, I doubt it. But one problem for Verizon is that until LTE is widely deployed, an LTE-GSM phone won't be much use since customers will be without Verizon service when ourside of LTE zones. But for AT&T, when they go LTE, a LTE-GSM phone will be able to fall back to 3g or perhaps even 2g in areas not yet upgraded. What is apple's relationship with Qualcomm ? (which owns CDMA, requires hefty royalties for every handset sold, and has even sued one of its former largest customer: Nokia). If Jobs has a negative opinion of Qualcomm, don't expect a CDMA phone anytime.
From: Your Name on 11 May 2010 17:03 "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:110520101527364908%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... > In article <4be99b90$0$1674$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, SMS > <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote: > > > Still, having used Windows 7, I worry about the computer side of things. > > They're going to need to do something about OS-X if they want to gain > > market share. > > they *are* gaining market share. Semi-true, but it depends on your definition of "market share" to some degree. Firstly, lumping all the Windows-box makers into one category is a little unfair - you're comparing Apples and lemons ... one company vs 50 companies is never going to be a fair fight. Once you split the Windows-box makers into the separate companies you find that Apple is ranked high on the list (especially in more recent financial times), often beating the likes of Dell, HP, etc. Apple has also never been that interested in market share for the sake of it. Apple has always thought of itself as, and has been, a premier brand (which is why they used to price they products a lot higher and why resellers still make very little profit out of Apple equipment). Apple is like Rolls Royce or Ferrari, while Dell, HP, etc. are the Hyundai, Toyota, and Ford, plus of course nuerous no-name brands that often sell you a junker. The "lower" brands may well have more customers, but Apple's customers are usually more satisfied and wiling to pay a bit extra for quality.
From: Your Name on 11 May 2010 17:06
"Michelle Steiner" <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote in message news:michelle-013C77.13084211052010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi... > In article <110520101538545606%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > the question is whether there will be an iphone on something other than > > at&t *this* year. > > Well, if there will be an iPhone on Verizon this year, I'll be jumping ship. Only a about a month and a half left to wait (if they announce such a change with the new model's release). Of course, the current rumor is that AT&T made a deal with Apple over iPad plan pricing so that they could keep iPhone exclusivity until at least 2012 ... when the world ends anyway. ;-) |