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From: Mike Rosenberg on 11 May 2010 21:02 Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > I think the advantages of the iPhone outweigh the disadvantages of AT&T. I'm getting one (my first, finally) whenever the 4G model is available. Whichever carrier. -- Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> Make money while saving money <http://www.bign.com/mrosenberg>
From: Todd Allcock on 11 May 2010 21:36 "nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:110520101707133524%nospam(a)nospam.invalid... >> There are some additional smaller GSM carriers in the USA which may be >> using frequencies compatible with existing iphones. > > gsm in the usa is just at&t and t-mobile. the rest buy wholesale > minutes and resell them. Um, no. There are plenty of regional GSM carriers across the US with their own "sovereign" networks. AT&T and T-Mobile use them to give the illusion they have "nationwide" networks. (And vice versa, of course.) Back in the 80's when cellular was new and mobile phones were powered by steam, was a very regional business- there were only two carriers per market: one went to the local landline phone company, and the other was issued preferentially to a local applicant. (Though the license winner often then sold the license to other wireless companies.) When the 1900MHz spectrum opened up, up to five additional carriers per market could join the fun. Only after mergers, acquisitions, buyouts, etc. did the "nationwide" cellular companies emerge, with patchwork market-by-market coverage filled by roaming agreements. (Look at, for example, AT&T's prepaid map to see what essentially is their own network- everything on the postpaid map not on the prepaid map is filled by local and regional GSM carriers.) Every "nationwide" carrier today, including Verizon "There's a Map For That" Wireless uses small regional carriers to provide coverage in markets they have no license to serve. I used to work for a regional cellular carrier in Nebraska that made more revenue from roaming than they did from all of their own subscribers! Off the top of my head, regional GSMs I've roamed on just in the past year include Plateau Wireless in AZ/NM, Viaero in CO and NE, Kansas Cellular in (you guessed it!) KS, Iowa Wireless and Longlines in IA, and, believe it or not, Verizon (well, actually Alltel) all over the midwest- Alltel owned a GSM network they inherited from Western Wireless, that they operated (presumably because they were obligated by existing long-term roaming agreements) solely for roaming revenue. Verizon owns it now, after the Alltel acquision. All of those regional carriers would give anything to have access to the iPhone. The lobbying group for rural carriers, the Rural Cellular Association, petitioned the FCC last year to investigate exclusivity agreements between carriers and equipment manufacturers since rural carriers lack the negotiating clout to get access to exclusive handsets: <http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=6520196863>
From: Phillip Jones on 11 May 2010 21:46 Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article<hscr62$akv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Phillip Jones<pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote: > >>>> the question is whether there will be an iphone on something other >>>> than at&t *this* year. >>> >>> Well, if there will be an iPhone on Verizon this year, I'll be jumping >>> ship. >> >> If Verizon becomes a iPhone dealer I will be getting one. If they stick >> with AT&T, I will never ever get one. > > I think the advantages of the iPhone outweigh the disadvantages of AT&T. > At least in my area AT&T Service is very poor constant Dropped signals, Dead Zones -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: nospam on 11 May 2010 21:48 In article <HCnGn.11377$0B5.483(a)newsfe05.iad>, Todd Allcock <elecconnec(a)AnoOspamL.com> wrote: > Um, no. There are plenty of regional GSM carriers across the US with their > own "sovereign" networks. AT&T and T-Mobile use them to give the illusion > they have "nationwide" networks. (And vice versa, of course.) can you directly sign up with one? > Off the top of my head, regional GSMs I've roamed on just in the past year > include Plateau Wireless in AZ/NM, Viaero in CO and NE, Kansas Cellular in > (you guessed it!) KS, Iowa Wireless and Longlines in IA, and, believe it or > not, Verizon (well, actually Alltel) all over the midwest- Alltel owned a > GSM network they inherited from Western Wireless, that they operated > (presumably because they were obligated by existing long-term roaming > agreements) solely for roaming revenue. Verizon owns it now, after the > Alltel acquision. > > All of those regional carriers would give anything to have access to the > iPhone. maybe so but they're not big enough for apple to worry about. do any of them offer android phones? palm pre?
From: Wes Groleau on 11 May 2010 22:22
On 05-11-2010 21:46, Phillip Jones wrote: > At least in my area AT&T Service is very poor constant Dropped signals, > Dead Zones I stomped into an AT&T store with "You have a lot of nerve charging me $30 for 'unlimited data'--I consider 'no internet connection' to be VERY limited." The guy did a full power down, deactivated, and reactivated, and I had access. Since then, it has never worked longer than 24 hours. It can show "3G" and full signal strength, yet some features will complain of no connection and others will silently do nothing. So far, _every_ time it has been fine after a full reboot. Doesn't sound like an AT&T problem--sounds like Apple is starting to copy Microsoft. -- Wes Groleau Homework Again http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1577 |