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From: tony cooper on 26 Jan 2010 13:39 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:19:47 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >In message <4b5f1366$0$29584$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter ><peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:Mi0lekDb0wXLFAc5@p >>haedsys.demon.co.uk... >>>> >>>>Just in a world where nobody believes individuals like you, >>> >>> Actually a lot of people believe me... I even get paid for advice. >>I would doubt if your advice concerns either photography or logic. > >Primarily >Electronics (including in digital cameras). >Software (safety critical) >development systems >This includes for government agencies and security organisations also >defence contractors. How is that relevant to your political biases? I provided products, training programs, and product-use advice to surgeons for many years. No surgeon, though, ever asked me for advice on how to vote. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Chris H on 26 Jan 2010 13:38 In message <4b5f32d9$0$31260$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:3QELSMAY1yXLFAZc@p >haedsys.demon.co.uk... >> In message <4b5f2802$0$31247$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter >> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >>>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:Riqi+jEjYxXLFAP1@p >>>haedsys.demon.co.uk... >>>> In message <4b5f1366$0$29584$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter >>>> <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >>>>>"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:Mi0lekDb0wXLFAc5@p >>>>>haedsys.demon.co.uk... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Just in a world where nobody believes individuals like you, >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually a lot of people believe me... I even get paid for advice. >>>>>I would doubt if your advice concerns either photography or logic. >>>> >>>> Primarily >>>> Electronics (including in digital cameras). >>>> Software (safety critical) >>>> development systems >>>> This includes for government agencies and security organisations also >>>> defence contractors. >>>> >>> >>> >>>If you use the logic and reasoning displayed here, $1 a year would be >>>high. >> >> >>>I sincerly hope you do not inject your political views into your >>>consulting advice. >> >> It's what my clients tell me, not what I tell them... >> > > >When I give advice, I tell them what I think. I do not pander to their >good feelings. Neither do I, I give them engineering advice and get other information back. You should try going to some defence or counter terrorist conferences. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Chris H on 26 Jan 2010 13:39 In message <4b5f3101$0$30984$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >news:2010012609305579149-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > >> Bush, Cheny, Wolfowitz, and Blair are criminally responsible for >>leading the US & UK into that war in the face of all the reasons not >>to. >> >> Afghanistan is a different issue. The failure of the Taliban >>government to surrender the Al Qaeda 9/11 plotters led to the initial >>NATO supported action there. >> The problem there has been the support of the corrupt Karzai regime, >>and the spectre of a Taliban led government take over in Pakistan. >> > >Gotta partially differ on Afghanistan. The Taliban's refusal to >surrender any plotters is entirely consistent with the Afghani >tradition of hospitality and safe haven. These are highly cherished >customs that have their root in Koran. There are work arounds, but the >Bush administration was too blind to see them. Cheney had no intention >of using those workarounds, even if they were recognized. Our >disregard of their ways is a large source of the resentment against us. >However, bringing that up is about as useful now as arguing that the UK >was the biggest agitator in starting WWI. Now that we are involved, I >see the problem as how to disengage while maintaining our security. The Afghan government even offered to hand over OBL if the US could show any evidence... they could not and probably still can't -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: tony cooper on 26 Jan 2010 13:55 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:05:06 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >>Yeah, right. We're supposed to believe that the opinion of some >>low-level non-combatant can speak for the professional military. > >So where do you get that information from? Don't weasel. Were you, or were you not, a ranking officer at command level with access to information about how the UK military command rate the US military? Were you, or were you not, actively involved in a combate role? >I was in the professional military. When were you last in the Middle >east? When were you last in direct contact with the US legal system? -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 26 Jan 2010 14:38
"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:3BMbW2C5bzXLFAIm(a)phaedsys.demon.co.uk... > In message <4b5f3101$0$30984$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter > <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >>"Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message >>news:2010012609305579149-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... >> >>> Bush, Cheny, Wolfowitz, and Blair are criminally responsible for >>>leading the US & UK into that war in the face of all the reasons not >>>to. >>> >>> Afghanistan is a different issue. The failure of the Taliban >>>government to surrender the Al Qaeda 9/11 plotters led to the initial >>>NATO supported action there. >>> The problem there has been the support of the corrupt Karzai regime, >>>and the spectre of a Taliban led government take over in Pakistan. >>> >> >>Gotta partially differ on Afghanistan. The Taliban's refusal to >>surrender any plotters is entirely consistent with the Afghani >>tradition of hospitality and safe haven. These are highly cherished >>customs that have their root in Koran. There are work arounds, but the >>Bush administration was too blind to see them. Cheney had no intention >>of using those workarounds, even if they were recognized. Our >>disregard of their ways is a large source of the resentment against us. >>However, bringing that up is about as useful now as arguing that the UK >>was the biggest agitator in starting WWI. Now that we are involved, I >>see the problem as how to disengage while maintaining our security. > > The Afghan government even offered to hand over OBL if the US could show > any evidence... they could not and probably still can't > You claim to have a security background and make a statement like that? 1. OBL made the requisite admission. 2. In order to present the evidence we would have to divulge all operatives. Yup! I'm sure you would like us to do that. -- Peter |