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From: C J Campbell on 25 Jan 2010 10:32 On 2010-01-25 01:10:15 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > In message <4b5b7c54$0$1677$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer > <rfischer(a)sonic.net> writes >> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) said: >>>> Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: >>>>> Savageduck >>>> >>>>>> Yeeeees, but all of this is still hypothetical, and there is still no >>>>>> proof of intent to smuggle a weapon into Canada and possess it >>>>>> illegally. >>>>> >>>>> They don't need to do that. >>>>> You and your unlicensed firearm are in Canada. That is illegal. >>>> >>>> Technically no, it is not in Canada. People and goods are not in >>>> Canada until they clear immigration and customs. >>> >>> Technically they are in Canada. >> >> Not according to the law. Airports set aside areas that are legally >> outside of the host country. > > Having done counter terrorist work as a member of the military I can > tell you that you are wrong. > > Those areas are "outside the country" for tax rules. Just as bonded > warehouses are. It just simplifies the transit of goods though > airports without needing to import and export. Thus saving a lot of > paperwork, time and money. > > Passengers are accorded a similar sort of status in transit as well > simply to make administration easier otherwise you would need visas for > any airport you transited though. > > However these areas are absolutely part of the host country and subject > to it's laws and LEA's. As any time the police and military can use > whatever powers they have at any place in the airport. > > Actually as soon as the aircraft enters the countries airspace it, and > it's passengers, are subject to local laws. When using quotes, please make sure that you do not give improper attribution. I am not the person who said that airports set aside areas that are legally outside the country. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor
From: Chris H on 25 Jan 2010 11:18 In message <2010012506553797157-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >On 2010-01-25 06:15:06 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > >> In message <2010012504191033169-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck >> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>> On 2010-01-25 03:18:21 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- > >>> There are several members of the CIA, US military and administration >>>> that will have trouble travelling into Europe as they have been found >>>> guilty by EU courts. There may be some interesting diplomatic >>>> bargaining going on. >>> Cite. >> Italy has issued warrants for 22 CIA staff. How come you did not >>know >> this? >> Http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2005/07/cia_criminals_i.html >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/12/23/italy.warrants2/index.htm >>l > >So know we know. That wasn't difficult was it? > >You will note that none of the CIA staff have been identified, Not publicly > or appeared in any EU court to be found guilty. In this part of the world we issue arrest warrants, have a trial and then find them guilty. I realise the US finds people guilty, executes them and then identifies them.... Often without even bothering any legal system. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Savageduck on 25 Jan 2010 11:39 On 2010-01-25 08:18:04 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > In message <2010012506553797157-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >> On 2010-01-25 06:15:06 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >> >>> In message <2010012504191033169-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck >>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >>>> On 2010-01-25 03:18:21 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> There are several members of the CIA, US military and administration >>>>> that will have trouble travelling into Europe as they have been found >>>>> guilty by EU courts. There may be some interesting diplomatic >>>>> bargaining going on. >>>> Cite. >>> Italy has issued warrants for 22 CIA staff. How come you did not >>> know >>> this? >>> Http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2005/07/cia_criminals_i.html >>> http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/12/23/italy.warrants2/index.htm >>> l >> >> So know we know. That wasn't difficult was it? >> >> You will note that none of the CIA staff have been identified, > > Not publicly > >> or appeared in any EU court to be found guilty. > In this part of the world we issue arrest warrants, have a trial and > then find them guilty. That is not what you stated earlier in this thread. I quote, "There are several members of the CIA, US military and administration that will have trouble traveling into Europe as they have been found GUILTY by EU courts." Now which is it? Your first statement was BS or the EU courts are as ethical as any in civilized jurisprudence. > > I realise the US finds people guilty, executes them and then identifies > them.... Often without even bothering any legal system. You appear to be totally ignorant of the US Legal system, and you are basing your opinion on that ignorance. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Chris H on 25 Jan 2010 11:51 In message <2010012508394329560-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >On 2010-01-25 08:18:04 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >> I realise the US finds people guilty, executes them and then >>identifies >> them.... Often without even bothering any legal system. > >You appear to be totally ignorant of the US Legal system, and you are >basing your opinion on that ignorance. Not at all... seen it in action first hand. (And I don't mean on TV) BTW how many US Drone strikes have there been ion the last 10 days on "suspected terrorists" Ie Civilians who are killed, then identified and then accused of probably being terrorists (those they can still identify) women and children too. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Savageduck on 25 Jan 2010 12:08
On 2010-01-25 08:51:32 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: > In message <2010012508394329560-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom>, Savageduck > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> writes >> On 2010-01-25 08:18:04 -0800, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> said: >>> I realise the US finds people guilty, executes them and then >>> identifies >>> them.... Often without even bothering any legal system. >> >> You appear to be totally ignorant of the US Legal system, and you are >> basing your opinion on that ignorance. > > Not at all... seen it in action first hand. (And I don't mean on TV) Oh! OK, do tell us of your experience with the US Legal system. ....and please, no third party, "I know somebody, or I was told" story, you have "seen it in action first hand" after all. > > BTW how many US Drone strikes have there been ion the last 10 days on > "suspected terrorists" Ie Civilians who are killed, then identified and > then accused of probably being terrorists (those they can still > identify) women and children too. That is a different issue which has nothing to do with the discussion regarding Courts and extradition. Those darn civilians should stop carrying AK47's and RGP-7's it is confusing our drone pilots, they have a hard enough time flying them remotely form Arizona. -- Regards, Savageduck |