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From: slider on 17 Mar 2010 06:20 HG wrote... > And whoever all those people were who cleaned up the air in Helsinki, they > sure as hell weren't people like Slider. They actually did stuff and > achieved something concrete. > > (If they would have been like him, then most probably not only the lichen, > but also the trees themselves would have started dying.) > > > HG ### - denial isn't just a river in Egypt you know :) http://www.chernobyl.com.ua/ChernobylFacts.htm a.. Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in 1945. b.. The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree. c.. 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine d.. 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of which already died or are now handicapped e.. Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims. f.. There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated g.. For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the radiation sickness ------------------------------ http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b.html#Finland Saxen, R. and Aaltonen, H. (1987). Radioactivity of surface water in Finland after the Chernobyl accident in 1986: Supplement 5 to Annual Report STUK-A55. Report No. STUK-A60. Finnish Centre for Radiation and Nuclear Safety, Helsinki. a.. The highest concentration of 137Cs (5,300 Bq/m3) found in 1986 was about 1,000 times higher than the average concentration of 137Cs in surface water in 1985, and 10-80 times higher than the highest values detected after the weapons test period in the 1960's. b.. A hot spot of 11,000 Bq/m3 of 89Sr was found in 1986. ------------------------------- http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Chernobyl+disaster+20+years+ago+was+wake-up+call+for+Finns/1135219632463 The fear spread with the rumours. When officials gave assurances that there was no danger, there was speculation in newspapers about whether or not milk was safe to drink, and lettuce safe to eat, or if rain water could be used for making food, or if it was all right for children to play in sandboxes or puddles. The government was accused of being slow and secretive. When Finland did not join the other Nordic Countries in calling on the Soviet Union to give an official explanation of what had happened, it was seen as yet another example of Finlandization. The decision on a fifth commercial nuclear reactor for Finland was set back 15 years. "Chernobyl turned into an information disaster", Koivukoski says. "At the time, accidents were seen mainly as a matter for officials to deal with. Since then, cooperation with journalists and the means of disseminating information developed tremendously." ----------------------------- http://www.stuk.fi/tutkimus/hankkeet/terveyshaitat/en_GB/chefin/ The impact of the Chernobyl accident on the cancers in Finland (CHEFIN) The aim of the study is to assess whether there is a detectable increase in various cancer types following the Chernobyl accident in Finland; to test a hypothesis concerning the non-linear, cancer-promoting effect of radiation at low doses, and to develop a database and design of studies of impacts of the Chernobyl accident on the population of Finland. ------------------------------ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240640/ Possible effects of Chernobyl fallout on outcome of pregnancy in Finland were evaluated in a nationwide follow-up study. The outcomes were the rate of live births and stillbirths, pregnancy loss, and induced abortions by municipality. Exposure was assessed based on nationwide surveys of radiation dose rate from the Chernobyl fallout, from both external and internal exposures. Using these measurements, we estimated the monthly dose rate for each of the 455 Finnish municipalities. On average, the dose rate from Chernobyl fallout reached 50 microSv per month in May 1986--a doubling of the natural background radiation. In the most heavily affected area, 4 times the normal background dose rates were recorded. Given the underlying regional differences in live birth, stillbirth, and abortion rates, we used longitudinal analysis comparing changes over time within municipalities. A temporary decline in the live birth rate had already begun before 1986, with no clear relationship to the level of fallout. A statistically significant increase in spontaneous abortions with dose of radiation was observed. No marked changes in induced abortions or stillbirths were observed. The decrease in the live birth rate is probably not a biological effect of radiation, but more likely related to public concerns of the fallout. The effect on spontaneous abortions should be interpreted with caution, because of potential bias or confounding. Further, there is little support in the epidemiologic literature on effects of very low doses of radiation on pregnancy outcome. ---------------------------- http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article592538.ece Finland, among the countries worst affected by fallout from the stricken Soviet power station, seems an unlikely candidate to lead a revival of the nuclear age. Yet in a nation that boasts 1.5 million saunas - one for every four people - and a vast, electricity-hungry paper industry, energy issues have acquired a high political profile. The Finns are no longer content to rely on imported gas, oil and coal for their power, or to pump out more and more of the greenhouse gases that are anathema to their environmentally conscious traditions. The nuclear option, they decided after a two-year national debate, has become least worst way of generating electricity cheaply and reliably. -------------------- ### - (slider's comment) ffs! ** 500 Hiroshimas?! ** geeze! but it's all ok folks, even with 500 Hiroshimas on our friggin' doorstep, recycling all our old tin cans and baking foil + doing a bit of gardening in Hel-sinki is perforce gonna save the day, no problemo! + of course no need to worry about the 60's global contamination either... well i believe it, i really do... don't you? (yeah right :) --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: JT on 17 Mar 2010 06:27 On 17 mar, 11:20, "slider" <sli...(a)anashram.com> wrote: > HG wrote... > > And whoever all those people were who cleaned up the air in Helsinki, they > > sure as hell weren't people like Slider. They actually did stuff and > > achieved something concrete. > > > (If they would have been like him, then most probably not only the lichen, > > but also the trees themselves would have started dying.) > > > HG > > ### - denial isn't just a river in Egypt you know :) > > http://www.chernobyl.com.ua/ChernobylFacts.htm > > a.. Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in > 1945. > b.. The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree. > c.. 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine > d.. 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of > which already died or are now handicapped > e.. Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times > correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims. > f.. There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, > and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated > g.. For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the > radiation sickness > > ------------------------------ > > http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b.html#Finland > > Saxen, R. and Aaltonen, H. (1987). Radioactivity of surface water in Finland after > the Chernobyl accident in 1986: Supplement 5 to Annual Report STUK-A55. Report No. > STUK-A60. Finnish Centre for Radiation and Nuclear Safety, Helsinki. > > a.. The highest concentration of 137Cs (5,300 Bq/m3) found in 1986 was about > 1,000 times higher than the average concentration of 137Cs in surface water in > 1985, and 10-80 times higher than the highest values detected after the weapons > test period in the 1960's. > > b.. A hot spot of 11,000 Bq/m3 of 89Sr was found in 1986. > > -------------------------------http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Chernobyl+disaster+20+years+ago+was+... > > The fear spread with the rumours. When officials gave assurances that there was no > danger, there was speculation in newspapers about whether or not milk was safe to > drink, and lettuce safe to eat, or if rain water could be used for making food, or > if it was all right for children to play in sandboxes or puddles. > The government was accused of being slow and secretive. When Finland did not > join the other Nordic Countries in calling on the Soviet Union to give an official > explanation of what had happened, it was seen as yet another example of > Finlandization. The decision on a fifth commercial nuclear reactor for Finland was > set back 15 years. > "Chernobyl turned into an information disaster", Koivukoski says. > "At the time, accidents were seen mainly as a matter for officials to deal > with. Since then, cooperation with journalists and the means of disseminating > information developed tremendously." > > ----------------------------- > > http://www.stuk.fi/tutkimus/hankkeet/terveyshaitat/en_GB/chefin/ > > The impact of the Chernobyl accident on the cancers in Finland (CHEFIN) > > The aim of the study is to assess whether there is a detectable increase in > various cancer types following the Chernobyl accident in Finland; to test a > hypothesis concerning the non-linear, cancer-promoting effect of radiation at low > doses, and to develop a database and design of studies of impacts of the Chernobyl > accident on the population of Finland. > > ------------------------------ > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240640/ > > Possible effects of Chernobyl fallout on outcome of pregnancy in Finland were > evaluated in a nationwide follow-up study. The outcomes were the rate of live > births and stillbirths, pregnancy loss, and induced abortions by municipality. > Exposure was assessed based on nationwide surveys of radiation dose rate from the > Chernobyl fallout, from both external and internal exposures. Using these > measurements, we estimated the monthly dose rate for each of the 455 Finnish > municipalities. On average, the dose rate from Chernobyl fallout reached 50 > microSv per month in May 1986--a doubling of the natural background radiation. In > the most heavily affected area, 4 times the normal background dose rates were > recorded. Given the underlying regional differences in live birth, stillbirth, and > abortion rates, we used longitudinal analysis comparing changes over time within > municipalities. A temporary decline in the live birth rate had already begun > before 1986, with no clear relationship to the level of fallout. A statistically > significant increase in spontaneous abortions with dose of radiation was observed. > No marked changes in induced abortions or stillbirths were observed. The decrease > in the live birth rate is probably not a biological effect of radiation, but more > likely related to public concerns of the fallout. The effect on spontaneous > abortions should be interpreted with caution, because of potential bias or > confounding. Further, there is little support in the epidemiologic literature on > effects of very low doses of radiation on pregnancy outcome. > > ---------------------------- > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article592538.ece > > Finland, among the countries worst affected by fallout from the stricken Soviet > power station, seems an unlikely candidate to lead a revival of the nuclear age. > > Yet in a nation that boasts 1.5 million saunas - one for every four people - and a > vast, electricity-hungry paper industry, energy issues have acquired a high > political profile. > > The Finns are no longer content to rely on imported gas, oil and coal for their > power, or to pump out more and more of the greenhouse gases that are anathema to > their environmentally conscious traditions. > > The nuclear option, they decided after a two-year national debate, has become > least worst way of generating electricity cheaply and reliably. > > -------------------- > > ### - (slider's comment) ffs! ** 500 Hiroshimas?! ** geeze! > > but it's all ok folks, even with 500 Hiroshimas on our friggin' doorstep, > recycling all our old tin cans and baking foil + doing a bit of gardening in > Hel-sinki is perforce gonna save the day, no problemo! + of course no need to > worry about the 60's global contamination either... > > well i believe it, i really do... don't you? > > (yeah right :) > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...(a)netfront.net --- Well you guys seem to be in apocalypse mode, what about this one the dynamo of earth goes nuts, sealevel rises. There will be a party 5 november 2015 enchantment under the sea. Is it 1955 or 1985 JT
From: JT on 17 Mar 2010 06:28 On 17 mar, 11:27, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 17 mar, 11:20, "slider" <sli...(a)anashram.com> wrote: > > > > > > > HG wrote... > > > And whoever all those people were who cleaned up the air in Helsinki, they > > > sure as hell weren't people like Slider. They actually did stuff and > > > achieved something concrete. > > > > (If they would have been like him, then most probably not only the lichen, > > > but also the trees themselves would have started dying.) > > > > HG > > > ### - denial isn't just a river in Egypt you know :) > > >http://www.chernobyl.com.ua/ChernobylFacts.htm > > > a.. Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in > > 1945. > > b.. The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree. > > c.. 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine > > d.. 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of > > which already died or are now handicapped > > e.. Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times > > correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims. > > f.. There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, > > and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated > > g.. For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the > > radiation sickness > > > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b.html#Finland > > > Saxen, R. and Aaltonen, H. (1987). Radioactivity of surface water in Finland after > > the Chernobyl accident in 1986: Supplement 5 to Annual Report STUK-A55. Report No. > > STUK-A60. Finnish Centre for Radiation and Nuclear Safety, Helsinki. > > > a.. The highest concentration of 137Cs (5,300 Bq/m3) found in 1986 was about > > 1,000 times higher than the average concentration of 137Cs in surface water in > > 1985, and 10-80 times higher than the highest values detected after the weapons > > test period in the 1960's. > > > b.. A hot spot of 11,000 Bq/m3 of 89Sr was found in 1986. > > > -------------------------------http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Chernobyl+disaster+20+years+ago+was+... > > > The fear spread with the rumours. When officials gave assurances that there was no > > danger, there was speculation in newspapers about whether or not milk was safe to > > drink, and lettuce safe to eat, or if rain water could be used for making food, or > > if it was all right for children to play in sandboxes or puddles. > > The government was accused of being slow and secretive. When Finland did not > > join the other Nordic Countries in calling on the Soviet Union to give an official > > explanation of what had happened, it was seen as yet another example of > > Finlandization. The decision on a fifth commercial nuclear reactor for Finland was > > set back 15 years. > > "Chernobyl turned into an information disaster", Koivukoski says. > > "At the time, accidents were seen mainly as a matter for officials to deal > > with. Since then, cooperation with journalists and the means of disseminating > > information developed tremendously." > > > ----------------------------- > > >http://www.stuk.fi/tutkimus/hankkeet/terveyshaitat/en_GB/chefin/ > > > The impact of the Chernobyl accident on the cancers in Finland (CHEFIN) > > > The aim of the study is to assess whether there is a detectable increase in > > various cancer types following the Chernobyl accident in Finland; to test a > > hypothesis concerning the non-linear, cancer-promoting effect of radiation at low > > doses, and to develop a database and design of studies of impacts of the Chernobyl > > accident on the population of Finland. > > > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240640/ > > > Possible effects of Chernobyl fallout on outcome of pregnancy in Finland were > > evaluated in a nationwide follow-up study. The outcomes were the rate of live > > births and stillbirths, pregnancy loss, and induced abortions by municipality. > > Exposure was assessed based on nationwide surveys of radiation dose rate from the > > Chernobyl fallout, from both external and internal exposures. Using these > > measurements, we estimated the monthly dose rate for each of the 455 Finnish > > municipalities. On average, the dose rate from Chernobyl fallout reached 50 > > microSv per month in May 1986--a doubling of the natural background radiation. In > > the most heavily affected area, 4 times the normal background dose rates were > > recorded. Given the underlying regional differences in live birth, stillbirth, and > > abortion rates, we used longitudinal analysis comparing changes over time within > > municipalities. A temporary decline in the live birth rate had already begun > > before 1986, with no clear relationship to the level of fallout. A statistically > > significant increase in spontaneous abortions with dose of radiation was observed. > > No marked changes in induced abortions or stillbirths were observed. The decrease > > in the live birth rate is probably not a biological effect of radiation, but more > > likely related to public concerns of the fallout. The effect on spontaneous > > abortions should be interpreted with caution, because of potential bias or > > confounding. Further, there is little support in the epidemiologic literature on > > effects of very low doses of radiation on pregnancy outcome. > > > ---------------------------- > > >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article592538.ece > > > Finland, among the countries worst affected by fallout from the stricken Soviet > > power station, seems an unlikely candidate to lead a revival of the nuclear age. > > > Yet in a nation that boasts 1.5 million saunas - one for every four people - and a > > vast, electricity-hungry paper industry, energy issues have acquired a high > > political profile. > > > The Finns are no longer content to rely on imported gas, oil and coal for their > > power, or to pump out more and more of the greenhouse gases that are anathema to > > their environmentally conscious traditions. > > > The nuclear option, they decided after a two-year national debate, has become > > least worst way of generating electricity cheaply and reliably. > > > -------------------- > > > ### - (slider's comment) ffs! ** 500 Hiroshimas?! ** geeze! > > > but it's all ok folks, even with 500 Hiroshimas on our friggin' doorstep, > > recycling all our old tin cans and baking foil + doing a bit of gardening in > > Hel-sinki is perforce gonna save the day, no problemo! + of course no need to > > worry about the 60's global contamination either... > > > well i believe it, i really do... don't you? > > > (yeah right :) > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...(a)netfront.net --- > > Well you guys seem to be in apocalypse mode, what about this one the > dynamo of earth goes nuts, sealevel rises. There will be a party 5 > november 2015 enchantment under the sea. > > Is it 1955 or 1985 > > JT- Dölj citerad text - > > - Visa citerad text - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Rngy90Q14
From: JT on 17 Mar 2010 06:42 On 17 mar, 11:27, JT <jonas.thornv...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 17 mar, 11:20, "slider" <sli...(a)anashram.com> wrote: > > > > > > > HG wrote... > > > And whoever all those people were who cleaned up the air in Helsinki, they > > > sure as hell weren't people like Slider. They actually did stuff and > > > achieved something concrete. > > > > (If they would have been like him, then most probably not only the lichen, > > > but also the trees themselves would have started dying.) > > > > HG > > > ### - denial isn't just a river in Egypt you know :) > > >http://www.chernobyl.com.ua/ChernobylFacts.htm > > > a.. Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in > > 1945. > > b.. The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree. > > c.. 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine > > d.. 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of > > which already died or are now handicapped > > e.. Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times > > correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims. > > f.. There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, > > and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated > > g.. For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the > > radiation sickness > > > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b.html#Finland > > > Saxen, R. and Aaltonen, H. (1987). Radioactivity of surface water in Finland after > > the Chernobyl accident in 1986: Supplement 5 to Annual Report STUK-A55. Report No. > > STUK-A60. Finnish Centre for Radiation and Nuclear Safety, Helsinki. > > > a.. The highest concentration of 137Cs (5,300 Bq/m3) found in 1986 was about > > 1,000 times higher than the average concentration of 137Cs in surface water in > > 1985, and 10-80 times higher than the highest values detected after the weapons > > test period in the 1960's. > > > b.. A hot spot of 11,000 Bq/m3 of 89Sr was found in 1986. > > > -------------------------------http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Chernobyl+disaster+20+years+ago+was+... > > > The fear spread with the rumours. When officials gave assurances that there was no > > danger, there was speculation in newspapers about whether or not milk was safe to > > drink, and lettuce safe to eat, or if rain water could be used for making food, or > > if it was all right for children to play in sandboxes or puddles. > > The government was accused of being slow and secretive. When Finland did not > > join the other Nordic Countries in calling on the Soviet Union to give an official > > explanation of what had happened, it was seen as yet another example of > > Finlandization. The decision on a fifth commercial nuclear reactor for Finland was > > set back 15 years. > > "Chernobyl turned into an information disaster", Koivukoski says. > > "At the time, accidents were seen mainly as a matter for officials to deal > > with. Since then, cooperation with journalists and the means of disseminating > > information developed tremendously." > > > ----------------------------- > > >http://www.stuk.fi/tutkimus/hankkeet/terveyshaitat/en_GB/chefin/ > > > The impact of the Chernobyl accident on the cancers in Finland (CHEFIN) > > > The aim of the study is to assess whether there is a detectable increase in > > various cancer types following the Chernobyl accident in Finland; to test a > > hypothesis concerning the non-linear, cancer-promoting effect of radiation at low > > doses, and to develop a database and design of studies of impacts of the Chernobyl > > accident on the population of Finland. > > > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240640/ > > > Possible effects of Chernobyl fallout on outcome of pregnancy in Finland were > > evaluated in a nationwide follow-up study. The outcomes were the rate of live > > births and stillbirths, pregnancy loss, and induced abortions by municipality. > > Exposure was assessed based on nationwide surveys of radiation dose rate from the > > Chernobyl fallout, from both external and internal exposures. Using these > > measurements, we estimated the monthly dose rate for each of the 455 Finnish > > municipalities. On average, the dose rate from Chernobyl fallout reached 50 > > microSv per month in May 1986--a doubling of the natural background radiation. In > > the most heavily affected area, 4 times the normal background dose rates were > > recorded. Given the underlying regional differences in live birth, stillbirth, and > > abortion rates, we used longitudinal analysis comparing changes over time within > > municipalities. A temporary decline in the live birth rate had already begun > > before 1986, with no clear relationship to the level of fallout. A statistically > > significant increase in spontaneous abortions with dose of radiation was observed. > > No marked changes in induced abortions or stillbirths were observed. The decrease > > in the live birth rate is probably not a biological effect of radiation, but more > > likely related to public concerns of the fallout. The effect on spontaneous > > abortions should be interpreted with caution, because of potential bias or > > confounding. Further, there is little support in the epidemiologic literature on > > effects of very low doses of radiation on pregnancy outcome. > > > ---------------------------- > > >http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article592538.ece > > > Finland, among the countries worst affected by fallout from the stricken Soviet > > power station, seems an unlikely candidate to lead a revival of the nuclear age. > > > Yet in a nation that boasts 1.5 million saunas - one for every four people - and a > > vast, electricity-hungry paper industry, energy issues have acquired a high > > political profile. > > > The Finns are no longer content to rely on imported gas, oil and coal for their > > power, or to pump out more and more of the greenhouse gases that are anathema to > > their environmentally conscious traditions. > > > The nuclear option, they decided after a two-year national debate, has become > > least worst way of generating electricity cheaply and reliably. > > > -------------------- > > > ### - (slider's comment) ffs! ** 500 Hiroshimas?! ** geeze! > > > but it's all ok folks, even with 500 Hiroshimas on our friggin' doorstep, > > recycling all our old tin cans and baking foil + doing a bit of gardening in > > Hel-sinki is perforce gonna save the day, no problemo! + of course no need to > > worry about the 60's global contamination either... > > > well i believe it, i really do... don't you? > > > (yeah right :) > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...(a)netfront.net --- > > Well you guys seem to be in apocalypse mode, what about this one the > dynamo of earth goes nuts, sealevel rises. There will be a party 5 > november 2015 enchantment under the sea. > > Is it 1955 or 1985 > > JT- Dölj citerad text - > > - Visa citerad text - There is that word again heavy, why are things so heavy in the future is there something wrong with earths gravitational pull? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosuvf7Unmg
From: slider on 17 Mar 2010 07:39
JT writes... > HG wrote... > > And whoever all those people were who cleaned up the air in Helsinki, they > > sure as hell weren't people like Slider. They actually did stuff and > > achieved something concrete. > > > (If they would have been like him, then most probably not only the lichen, > > but also the trees themselves would have started dying.) > > > HG > > ### - denial isn't just a river in Egypt you know :) > > http://www.chernobyl.com.ua/ChernobylFacts.htm > > a.. Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in > 1945. > b.. The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree. > c.. 143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine > d.. 600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of > which already died or are now handicapped > e.. Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times > correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims. > f.. There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, > and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated > g.. For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the > radiation sickness > > ------------------------------ > > http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b.html#Finland > > Saxen, R. and Aaltonen, H. (1987). Radioactivity of surface water in Finland > after > the Chernobyl accident in 1986: Supplement 5 to Annual Report STUK-A55. Report > No. > STUK-A60. Finnish Centre for Radiation and Nuclear Safety, Helsinki. > > a.. The highest concentration of 137Cs (5,300 Bq/m3) found in 1986 was about > 1,000 times higher than the average concentration of 137Cs in surface water in > 1985, and 10-80 times higher than the highest values detected after the weapons > test period in the 1960's. > > b.. A hot spot of 11,000 Bq/m3 of 89Sr was found in 1986. > > -------------------------------http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Chernobyl+disaster+20+years+ago+was+... > > The fear spread with the rumours. When officials gave assurances that there was > no > danger, there was speculation in newspapers about whether or not milk was safe > to > drink, and lettuce safe to eat, or if rain water could be used for making food, > or > if it was all right for children to play in sandboxes or puddles. > The government was accused of being slow and secretive. When Finland did not > join the other Nordic Countries in calling on the Soviet Union to give an > official > explanation of what had happened, it was seen as yet another example of > Finlandization. The decision on a fifth commercial nuclear reactor for Finland > was > set back 15 years. > "Chernobyl turned into an information disaster", Koivukoski says. > "At the time, accidents were seen mainly as a matter for officials to deal > with. Since then, cooperation with journalists and the means of disseminating > information developed tremendously." > > ----------------------------- > > http://www.stuk.fi/tutkimus/hankkeet/terveyshaitat/en_GB/chefin/ > > The impact of the Chernobyl accident on the cancers in Finland (CHEFIN) > > The aim of the study is to assess whether there is a detectable increase in > various cancer types following the Chernobyl accident in Finland; to test a > hypothesis concerning the non-linear, cancer-promoting effect of radiation at > low > doses, and to develop a database and design of studies of impacts of the > Chernobyl > accident on the population of Finland. > > ------------------------------ > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1240640/ > > Possible effects of Chernobyl fallout on outcome of pregnancy in Finland were > evaluated in a nationwide follow-up study. The outcomes were the rate of live > births and stillbirths, pregnancy loss, and induced abortions by municipality. > Exposure was assessed based on nationwide surveys of radiation dose rate from > the > Chernobyl fallout, from both external and internal exposures. Using these > measurements, we estimated the monthly dose rate for each of the 455 Finnish > municipalities. On average, the dose rate from Chernobyl fallout reached 50 > microSv per month in May 1986--a doubling of the natural background radiation. > In > the most heavily affected area, 4 times the normal background dose rates were > recorded. Given the underlying regional differences in live birth, stillbirth, > and > abortion rates, we used longitudinal analysis comparing changes over time within > municipalities. A temporary decline in the live birth rate had already begun > before 1986, with no clear relationship to the level of fallout. A statistically > significant increase in spontaneous abortions with dose of radiation was > observed. > No marked changes in induced abortions or stillbirths were observed. The > decrease > in the live birth rate is probably not a biological effect of radiation, but > more > likely related to public concerns of the fallout. The effect on spontaneous > abortions should be interpreted with caution, because of potential bias or > confounding. Further, there is little support in the epidemiologic literature on > effects of very low doses of radiation on pregnancy outcome. > > ---------------------------- > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article592538.ece > > Finland, among the countries worst affected by fallout from the stricken Soviet > power station, seems an unlikely candidate to lead a revival of the nuclear age. > > Yet in a nation that boasts 1.5 million saunas - one for every four people - and > a > vast, electricity-hungry paper industry, energy issues have acquired a high > political profile. > > The Finns are no longer content to rely on imported gas, oil and coal for their > power, or to pump out more and more of the greenhouse gases that are anathema to > their environmentally conscious traditions. > > The nuclear option, they decided after a two-year national debate, has become > least worst way of generating electricity cheaply and reliably. > > -------------------- > > ### - (slider's comment) ffs! ** 500 Hiroshimas?! ** geeze! > > but it's all ok folks, even with 500 Hiroshimas on our friggin' doorstep, > recycling all our old tin cans and baking foil + doing a bit of gardening in > Hel-sinki is perforce gonna save the day, no problemo! + of course no need to > worry about the 60's global contamination either... > > well i believe it, i really do... don't you? > > (yeah right :) Well you guys seem to be in apocalypse mode, what about this one the dynamo of earth goes nuts, sealevel rises. There will be a party 5 november 2015 enchantment under the sea. Is it 1955 or 1985 ### - hi JT, it's not really apocalypse-mode hehe, but a certain 'facing of the facts' so to speak, facts that are suggestive of (and/or are indicative of) a certain 'hypocrisy' to all this global-warming/recycling-bs that most people seemed have swallowed hook, line and proverbial sinker... probably because the truth of the matter is just too horrible to consider... i.e. that it's already probably/quite-likely been fucked-up just from the 60's tests alone, the slow cumulative-effects of which are really only now beginning to manifest themselves in worldwide declining populations across the board due to a variety of reasons, notwithstanding that of reduced fertility and/or the decreasing ability to reproduce in many species (Chernobyl only got mentioned because the 'fool-finn' i was talking to cited Helsinki as being some kind of wonderful proof that everything's just fine and dandy in downtown wallyworld, which i then claimed to probably be more of an exercise in public relations than being representative of any real progress...) only 'finny-boy' there (HG) threw a proverbial 'fit' at that point haha, which ended the debate leaving things hanging in the air/obscured (by clouds) that i thought aught to be somewhat further clarified at least... was there a point to it? well yes, one which i attempted to qualify with a quote from albert einstein (i.e. because he can't just be accused of being some 'crank') "All our lauded technological progress -- our very civilization - is like the axe in the hand of the pathological criminal." --albert einstein which as you can probably see/deduce is not really apocalyptic per se, that being another subject proper, perhaps other than it wouldn't exactly surprise me that much either if our collective delinquent/stupid behaviour led us to something quite like it... cheers :) ------------------------ December 16, 1996 "Scientists are mired in respectability. Does it not penetrate their skulls that some phenomena might only occur once? Or at a certain pattern in time--only every 3rd Tuesday, etcetera. And they have an insatiable appetite for data: "More data!" they scream "and nothing anecdotal." (This may be the only data in some cases.) "Not conclusive!" Is anything ever?" --excerpt from William Burroughs final work: 'Last Words' --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net --- |