Proton & electron ever been ISOLATED TOGETHER???
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From: Tom Roberts on 17 Jun 2010 00:01 Y.Porat wrote: > THE *NEUTRON* IS A COMBINATION OF > PROTON PLUS ELECTRON > CONNECTED LINEARLY AS A > **CHAIN OF ORBITALS * No, it most definitely is not. You described a hydrogen atom, not a neutron. They behave CONSIDERABLY differently. Tom Roberts
From: Inertial on 17 Jun 2010 00:20 "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts137(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:V9mdnRQ31ceNA4TRRVn_vwA(a)giganews.com... > Y.Porat wrote: >> THE *NEUTRON* IS A COMBINATION OF >> PROTON PLUS ELECTRON >> CONNECTED LINEARLY AS A >> **CHAIN OF ORBITALS * > > No, it most definitely is not. You described a hydrogen atom, not a > neutron. They behave CONSIDERABLY differently. A neutron can decay into a proton and electron (and an electron-anti-neutrino as I recall). That doesn't necessarily mean that those particle exist as distinct particles inside a neutron.
From: BURT on 17 Jun 2010 01:10 On Jun 15, 9:48 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 16, 12:27 am, Thomas Heger <ttt_...(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > > > gu...(a)hotmail.com schrieb: > > > > I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? > > > > Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one > > > hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? > > > > At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge > > > towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at > > > what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is > > > (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? > > > > They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then > > > gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a > > > single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? > > > > #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it > > > velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through > > > their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time > > > and it's exact velocity? > > > I personally think, the 'particle-concept' is wrong, because I think an > > atom is 'on thing'. The electron has charge and this would match the > > term potential, while the nucleus has mainly mass, but has opposite charge. > > This picture could be achieved by some kind of spin, that expands and > > contracts, while angular momentum is conserved and exchanged with velocity. > > The electron shell is than the point of return and represents the > > potential, while the nucleus is the inverse. > > An atom is in this picture a three-dimensional standing wave. The parts > > could not be separated. But one could create different states, that > > behave like its parts. > > > TH > > ------------------ > Thomas > i suggest that you will see again > my abstract > > ATB > Y.Porat > ---------------------- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - They are supposed to be attractive why don't they come together without forces applied? How can attraction need to be forced together? Mitch Raemsch
From: guskz on 17 Jun 2010 02:38 On Jun 17, 12:01 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Y.Porat wrote: > > THE *NEUTRON* IS A COMBINATION OF > > PROTON PLUS ELECTRON > > CONNECTED LINEARLY AS A > > **CHAIN OF ORBITALS * > > No, it most definitely is not. You described a hydrogen atom, not a neutron. > They behave CONSIDERABLY differently. > > Tom Roberts watz strange is day cant decipher the electron around da proton but they can decipher this latter's 3 quarks....maybe they only become quarks when day depart from the proton or da proton is destroyed, meaning day aint quarks inside da proton. kanispellorwat!
From: guskz on 17 Jun 2010 02:43
On Jun 17, 12:20 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > > news:V9mdnRQ31ceNA4TRRVn_vwA(a)giganews.com... > > > Y.Porat wrote: > >> THE *NEUTRON* IS A COMBINATION OF > >> PROTON PLUS ELECTRON > >> CONNECTED LINEARLY AS A > >> **CHAIN OF ORBITALS * > > > No, it most definitely is not. You described a hydrogen atom, not a > > neutron. They behave CONSIDERABLY differently. > > A neutron can decay into a proton and electron (and an > electron-anti-neutrino as I recall). That doesn't necessarily mean that > those particle exist as distinct particles inside a neutron. rather is a moment of inertia or inertia a resistance to displacement, if so is simply resistance that what we call mass. as well mass is not called resistance but load in circuitry and sometimes even a substitute for the word ground! And earth also know as mass and ground, sometimes the telephone companies use earth as a positive (when there's interference with electric trains/cars using the same earth), sometimes as a negative terminal. |