Proton & electron ever been ISOLATED TOGETHER???
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From: guskz on 15 Jun 2010 12:31 I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time and it's exact velocity?
From: Thomas Heger on 15 Jun 2010 18:27 guskz(a)hotmail.com schrieb: > I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? > > Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one > hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? > > At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge > towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at > what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is > (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? > > They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then > gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a > single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? > > #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it > velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through > their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time > and it's exact velocity? I personally think, the 'particle-concept' is wrong, because I think an atom is 'on thing'. The electron has charge and this would match the term potential, while the nucleus has mainly mass, but has opposite charge. This picture could be achieved by some kind of spin, that expands and contracts, while angular momentum is conserved and exchanged with velocity. The electron shell is than the point of return and represents the potential, while the nucleus is the inverse. An atom is in this picture a three-dimensional standing wave. The parts could not be separated. But one could create different states, that behave like its parts. TH
From: BURT on 15 Jun 2010 18:36 On Jun 15, 3:27 pm, Thomas Heger <ttt_...(a)web.de> wrote: > gu...(a)hotmail.com schrieb: > > > > > > > I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? > > > Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one > > hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? > > > At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge > > towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at > > what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is > > (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? > > > They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then > > gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a > > single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? > > > #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it > > velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through > > their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time > > and it's exact velocity? > > I personally think, the 'particle-concept' is wrong, because I think an > atom is 'on thing'. The electron has charge and this would match the > term potential, while the nucleus has mainly mass, but has opposite charge. > This picture could be achieved by some kind of spin, that expands and > contracts, while angular momentum is conserved and exchanged with velocity. > The electron shell is than the point of return and represents the > potential, while the nucleus is the inverse. > An atom is in this picture a three-dimensional standing wave. The parts > could not be separated. But one could create different states, that > behave like its parts. > > TH- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What is the origin of atomic shells? When do they form? The shells of atom have to have a beginning near the Big Bang when protons and electrons came together in time to form first hydrogen. Mitch Raemsch
From: guskz on 15 Jun 2010 23:42 On Jun 15, 6:36 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 3:27 pm, Thomas Heger <ttt_...(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > gu...(a)hotmail.com schrieb: > > > > I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? > > > > Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one > > > hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? > > > > At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge > > > towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at > > > what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is > > > (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? > > > > They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then > > > gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a > > > single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? > > > > #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it > > > velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through > > > their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time > > > and it's exact velocity? > > > I personally think, the 'particle-concept' is wrong, because I think an > > atom is 'on thing'. The electron has charge and this would match the > > term potential, while the nucleus has mainly mass, but has opposite charge. > > This picture could be achieved by some kind of spin, that expands and > > contracts, while angular momentum is conserved and exchanged with velocity. > > The electron shell is than the point of return and represents the > > potential, while the nucleus is the inverse. > > An atom is in this picture a three-dimensional standing wave. The parts > > could not be separated. But one could create different states, that > > behave like its parts. > > > TH- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > What is the origin of atomic shells? When do they form? > The shells of atom have to have a beginning near the Big Bang when > protons and electrons came together in time to form first hydrogen. > > Mitch Raemsch Zero difference. Steam from shower = big bang Space expands, heat disperses with volume. Less heat per unit volume = colder Colder = water drops from steam the colder = the larger the water drops the water drops are the elements. the colder it gets the more atomic elements (thus shells) are formed. The quantum number of the shells is related to both music scales and wave synchronization in terms of pi, pi/2, 3/2 pi, and 2 pi. The larger the shell the more pi offsets the shell can hold but the weaker the bond between charges. As well there is the acidic/alkalyne ph level resembles the table of elements. Which determines if the residual charge is more positive or negative as it reaches of a pi synchronization interval. pi equaling rad, thus = 180 degrees.
From: Y.Porat on 16 Jun 2010 00:48
On Jun 16, 12:27 am, Thomas Heger <ttt_...(a)web.de> wrote: > gu...(a)hotmail.com schrieb: > > > > > I would believe this to be extremely important for science?? > > > Have they ever isolated only one proton and one electron (thus one > > hydrogen) together and examined their trajectories?? > > > At what distance does the electron have a uni-directional charge > > towards the proton and can be identified as a single particle, and at > > what distance they can NO LONGER figure out where the electron is > > (electron cloud), nor the direction of it's charge with the proton? > > > They should have somehow magnetically separated the two, then > > gradually let them approach each other until the entity known as a > > single electron...becomes instead an electron cloud?? > > > #2. And how's the more you know it's location, the less you know it > > velocity work with their particle detectors? When it deviates through > > their detectors don't they know it's exact location at the exact time > > and it's exact velocity? > > I personally think, the 'particle-concept' is wrong, because I think an > atom is 'on thing'. The electron has charge and this would match the > term potential, while the nucleus has mainly mass, but has opposite charge. > This picture could be achieved by some kind of spin, that expands and > contracts, while angular momentum is conserved and exchanged with velocity. > The electron shell is than the point of return and represents the > potential, while the nucleus is the inverse. > An atom is in this picture a three-dimensional standing wave. The parts > could not be separated. But one could create different states, that > behave like its parts. > > TH ------------------ Thomas i suggest that you will see again my abstract ATB Y.Porat --------------------- |