Question re Canon iP1500
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From: Mary on 5 Apr 2006 22:20 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1144288860.350068.163900(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > But you seem to enjoy the fact that the color and black tanks are > > > cheap, even if they are 1/3 the volume and not 1/3 the price. > > > > Thats because to me it doesn't seem so bad to lay out a lot of money and > > when the carts get low, I just don't print much, so the carts last me a > > while. I think more about what I have to pay each time even though in > > the long run it costs more. Its the same with everything you buy. > > The difference here, the real difference is ink is used even if you > don't print anything. If you have no ink, you risk pre-mature head > burnout. That's the thing about this model, users who picked it like > the idea of only spending a few bills those rare times they need color > and go the rest of the time without, with only a 5ml buffer, which > disapears with automatic head cleanings. I have to agree.the cleanings do take a lot of ink. I use it on a regular basis and wouldn't get dried up. I think I just printed too many photos lately and maybe thats how it got clogged in the first place, though it is probably more of an accumulation since I got the printer. But I never went for a long time with no color printing.. > This is NOT a good procedure on this printer. You would be wise, if > being froogle, filling the tank with index so it at least is purging > something rather than burning out. Thats something else I hadn't heard of. You mean put windex in a cartridge on the color end if you haven't used the carrtridge for a while? > This is probally why canon no longer offers the model, because people > do exactly this, don't print color, they don't buy color. I printed color, but maybe not everybody did. Its more of an all purpose printer really but prints color photos ok though I am sure other printers would print photos better. I thought it was ok. > > The > > more you buy the more you save. Each way of thinking has its own merits. > > Depends on how you look at things. > > If you replaced the tanks 10 times, I'd wager you'd save $50 per year > on if you used OEM ink. I'm too lazy to calculate the aftermarket. > If you print less than 1500pages per year of black text, and no photos, > odds are you won't see savings in a year. I probably print more black text, but I print photos sometimes too and when I do I sometimes print quite a few, then I might not do any for a month or so, but still do color printing in the meantime.. > The service utility should tell you how many pages you've actually > printed so you can have some idea what your needs are. This service utility has got me wondering exactly how it works. I think Burts idea is the best for me at the moment. Just get the printhead for now and see if I can reset the absorber thing. If not, don't bother with getting the refurb from Canon and I still have my year with Staples to get a new printer. Also if I got a refurb from Canon, it might not last long. I wonder if they give any warranty on a refurb printer? you would think they have to give you something, even a short time. Mary
From: Mary on 5 Apr 2006 22:38 "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1144271936.017217.128010(a)e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > I would like to ask something - do you think Canon and Epson and HP are > > all equally good printers? > > See for your self > > http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/10/25/in_living_color/page9.html Thanks for that information Zak. Boy, you guys are great ! Mary > The HP DJ 8150 might be similar to the DeskJet 5940, they at least > share the same cartridges. With the 5940 you have the option to buy a > "99 photo cartridge" or use the regular #97, at least that's what a rag > said. > > The epsons are still sold, the r220 has not changed. > > But here is a brief lowdown > > 1. Epson - > - dye 6 tank printing > - pigment 4 tank or 6 tank printing > Their dye printers like the r200/r300 are not multi purpose > printers... expect text to cost more. Their cheap printers I find to be > fickle requiring manual head cleaning, and the head can not be removed. > Technicaly a longer lasting technology than what HP and Canon use. > The C series offers durabright pigment inks, quite good for text, quite > archival. > The R (800, 1800, 2400)series offers ultrachrome pigment inks, not as > archival from what i'm told, but beautiful. Not cheap. > > All have aftermarket supplies. > > 2. HP > - 8150 and similar > Head on the cart type, optional photo cartridge and optional grey > cartridge. Slow to dry ink, but very archival on the right papers. > the Tri-color tank, while wasteful, isn't horrible in terms of cost per > print. Very good general purpose printer > > Nice in the fact you can spend extra bucks to get extra spiffy photos > with smooth skintones, not so nice in the fact that their lower priced > models in this class only take two inktanks leaving one out to dry. > > 3. Canon > -ip3000/4000 > Very good general purpose printer. Gets away with using only 4 colors > by using a very small drop size. Quite waterfast on canon's glossy > plus paper, and other microporous papers. Not so lightfast. Photos > tend to be a tad punchy for my taste... but still very good. Newer > Pixmas offer a smaller drop size, but no aftermarket supplies except > for bulk ink exist for those yet. > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***
From: Burt on 5 Apr 2006 23:56 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message news:e11t24$f5d$1(a)emma.aioe.org... > "Burt" <sfbjgNOSPAM(a)pacbell.net> wrote in message > news:0k_Yf.64886$Jd.51003(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... >> >> "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message >> news:e11qad$vor$1(a)emma.aioe.org... >> > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> > news:1144285405.300198.236870(a)j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Do y ou mean I could fix the problem of the waste ink absorber >> > myself? I >> >> > thought you can't see it by just looking into the printer >> >> >> >> The waste counter you can reset with the service tool QY9-0066 as > Tony >> >> explained. You can get it here >> >> > http://www.printersiam.com/data/download/iP1500%20Service%20Tool.zip >> >> http://www.printersiam.com/data/DOWNLOAD.HTM >> > >> > I got an attachment from Tony in my email which I haven't had time > to >> > check out yet. It must be the one you mention above. From what Tony >> > said, I was under the impression it just stopped the message from >> > appearing on the screen but that the overflow problem is still there > and >> > according to the guy at Canon, he said that eventually it won't just > say >> > the waste ink absorber is almost full. it will say its full. He said > the >> > only way to solve that is to replace the printer. >> > I don't think I want to go into service manuals. >> > >> > Mary >> > >> >> There are also the following keystrokes >> >> 1. Turn off the printer. And disconnect the printer cable. >> >> 2. Press and hold the POWER button, turn on the printer. >> >> 3. The indicator (L.E.D.) should be green. >> >> 4. Press and release the RESUME button , the indicator (L.E.D.) > should >> >> be orange. >> >> 5. Press and release the RESUME button again, the indicator > (L.E.D.) >> >> should be green. >> >> 6. Release both buttons. >> >> >> >> The diaper requires a screwdriver to replace, and a service manual >> >> would be handy. All the free sites to get them are no longer > offering >> >> them, so you're left with the pay for the file bozos unless someone >> >> else can walk you through it >> >> http://www.2manuals.com/product_info.php?products_id=578 >> >> >> >> There is an e-mail address of someone else who might have it >> >> http://forum.eserviceinfo.com/viewtopic.php?p=19280 >> >> But they might be another pay for a download bozo, I don't know. >> >> >> > >> Mary - the printer doesn't actually measure the ink in the waste pad > like a >> gas guage in a car. > > Actually thats I thought it might be something like that. > > It is just an estimate. From what I've read, one reset >> won't create a problem. > > I thought the reset was just to get rid of the onscreen message warning > you about the ink absorber being almost full. I know this may sound > stupid, but how can running a software utility lower ink levels? > > Mary > I've opened one printer that had what I expext was about the amount of use yours does. It was a Canon bjc3000 that my wife used to print emails and some web pages. There wasn't any liquid ink sitting in a "tank". Visualize an absorbent pad that looks like a felt padding under a carpet. Ink that is pulled through the printhead during the cleaning cycles ends up on the pad in addition to a bit of overspray when printing borderless prints or from having set the paper or image size incorrectly that results in ink being sprayed into the printer instead of on paper. These inks are fast drying and tend to dry up on the absorbent pads. Eventually the pad gets gunked up and less absorbent. There is then the potential for liquid ink to sit at the bottom of the printer and drip out when the printer is tipped. There is a memory kept in the printer that keeps track of the number of pages printed and number of cleaning cycles run, among other things. The printer estimates the amount of ink going into the pad and signals that it is almost "full", but that would make you think that it is like a glass of liquid that is nearly full to the top and in danger of spilling over. At that point you can keep printing, and you can also do a reset of the counting mechanism. If you just keep printing or running cleaning cycles it will then tell you that the waste ink tank is full and the printer stops working. At that point you can not use the software reset, from what I've read. Apparently these printers have a healthy margin of safety that permits at least one reset without cleaning or replacing the pad. Especially with the kind of intermittent use that you report, I would expect the ink that gets into the pad area to have time to mostly evaporate and not stay as a liquid. To sum it up, it would be most unusual for you have any liquid ink sitting in the printer base at this point. The software reset doesn't alter the amount of ink in the pad - it simply lets you continue to use the printer until the counter decides that it should issue the next warning. It will think you changed the pad when the reset is done, so this will give you approximately the amount of time in the future that you've already enjoyed with your printer.
From: Burt on 5 Apr 2006 23:59 "Mary" <no(a)japamjunk.com> wrote in message news:e11tn3$hpu$1(a)emma.aioe.org... > "zakezuke" <zakezuke_us(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1144288860.350068.163900(a)z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > This service utility has got me wondering exactly how it works. > I think Burts idea is the best for me at the moment. Just get the > printhead for now and see if I can reset the absorber thing. If not, > don't bother with getting the refurb from Canon and I still have my year > with Staples to get a new printer. Also if I got a refurb from Canon, it > might not last long. I wonder if they give any warranty on a refurb > printer? you would think they have to give you something, even a short > time. > > Mary > I think that the refurbs have only a three month warranty
From: Arthur Entlich on 6 Apr 2006 05:53
Future Shop now offers their sale staff a choice between working commission or not. I have heard rumors (and for now, that's all they are) that they may move to a non-commissioned sales staff eventually. I think Best Buys is probably trying to see which works best in Canada in terms of sales long term. Art Mary wrote: > One difference between the two stores is Best Buy sales people are not > on commision, and wear a badge saying "we are not on commission" meaning > they don't bug people to buy like some Future shop sales people do as > they are not on commission. I don't have a problem with FS sales people, > maybe because they know me and know I don't want to be bugged and like > to look around. > > Mary > |