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From: Willie Moore on 2 Sep 2009 10:35 Ginny, I agree. Regards, Willie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4389 (20090902) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: E®!k /!sser on 2 Sep 2009 11:03 Hi Ginny, > Although I like free stuff as much as the next girl, I think it's > unreasonable to expect Grafx, which took over VO when it was horribly bug > ridden, to keep hacking away at all those bugs for free. They've already > paid for the fixes in sp3, but without revenue for more fixes at some > point they just have to stop making them. Hacking away bugs for free? If I recall right, after Grafx took over VO (and nobody forced brian to do so) I have paid for 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 (and not to mention the money I have thrown away with VOPS) Most of those releases were bugfixes, not very much new stuff. And some of the new stuff, was payed by a large company in private as they needed the functionality. (like VSS support) The announced released is needed to fix the new and very annoying bugs, introduced in the previous release. Remember a quick and free fix for this was announced almost a year ago. Having to pay for that is like free parking, you only have to pay for removing the wheel-clamp IMO, on a scale from honest business to blackmail, it is closer to the last. > What is shameful is how buggy VO was several years ago. What is amazing is > that we all still managed to use it to the point where we depend on it and > how much it has improved since then with such a tiny team. How long do you accept Grafx to hide behind the CA devteam ? VO 2.6, the first Grafx build, was released in 2002! Over 7 years ago!! http://www.grafxsoft.com/pr.htm regards, Erik
From: Ginny Caughey on 2 Sep 2009 11:27 Hi Erik, It's great to see you! I do see your point given that you supported VOPS for so many years. Perhaps I would feel the same way except I've been running 2831 (just after the public sp 2 release) so I don't see all the issues you do. (In case anybody is wondering, I've stayed on 2831 because it has been very solid in the field for me with Classmate and Vo2Ado, and testing everything again and updating my many customer machines to new runtime DLLs is a bigger chore than you might imagine.) At the same time, I'm a very pragmatic person, and if paying under $100 would solve annoying problems, then that would be a good investment. Maybe a good compromise in your situation would be an eval version of 2834 so you can determine if the upgrade would be worth it. Or just pay the money and complain loudly if it isn't an improvement. ;-) -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com "E�!k \/!sser" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:7g7fq6F2mhd0qU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Hi Ginny, > >> Although I like free stuff as much as the next girl, I think it's >> unreasonable to expect Grafx, which took over VO when it was horribly bug >> ridden, to keep hacking away at all those bugs for free. They've already >> paid for the fixes in sp3, but without revenue for more fixes at some >> point they just have to stop making them. > > Hacking away bugs for free? > If I recall right, after Grafx took over VO (and nobody forced brian to do > so) I have paid for 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 (and not to mention the money I have > thrown away with VOPS) > Most of those releases were bugfixes, not very much new stuff. And some of > the new stuff, was payed by a large company in private as they needed the > functionality. (like VSS support) > > The announced released is needed to fix the new and very annoying bugs, > introduced in the previous release. > Remember a quick and free fix for this was announced almost a year ago. > Having to pay for that is like free parking, you only have to pay for > removing the wheel-clamp > IMO, on a scale from honest business to blackmail, it is closer to the > last. > > >> What is shameful is how buggy VO was several years ago. What is amazing >> is that we all still managed to use it to the point where we depend on it >> and how much it has improved since then with such a tiny team. > > How long do you accept Grafx to hide behind the CA devteam ? > VO 2.6, the first Grafx build, was released in 2002! Over 7 years ago!! > http://www.grafxsoft.com/pr.htm > > > regards, > > Erik > > > > > > >
From: Jamal on 2 Sep 2009 12:25 Brian, Will this contain ReportPro 3.9 fixes including the issue with RTF streams containg extra wild text at end of the RTF text when it is created with WordPad. I've sent repoducable code to Robert over a 1.5 years ago and he said it will be fixed in next SP. Jamal "Brian" <B�ian@G�afxsoft.com> wrote in message news:0019520b$0$8031$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Hello All, > > GrafX is pleased to announce the release of Service Pack 3 for Visual > Objects 2.8 on September 30th 2009. > > For a list of features and bug fixes please refer to the following > document. > > http://www.grafxsoft.com/28sp3.htm > > or in PDF format at: > http://www.grafxsoft.com/WhatsNew28SP3.pdf > > > The upgrade will be 99.00 USD and can be ordered from: > > http://www.grafxsoft.com/2vo28.htm > > Internet Explorer 8 customers should be aware the above sites should be > viewed in "compatibility mode". > > All orders will be processed in the order in which they are received. No > credit cards will be billed before the September 30th ship date. > > Please place your order now, to ensure timely processing of your order. > > All the best, > > Brian > GrafX Software > http://www.grafxsoft.com > http://www.goVulcan.NET > >
From: Infoservice on 2 Sep 2009 13:05
"Paul D B" <polleke(a)NOMORESPAMhnt.be> ha scritto nel messaggio news:4a9e7ba7$0$2848$ba620e4c(a)news.skynet.be... > Infoservice wrote: >> Brian, >> why paying for service packs? I shall correct my program's bug free! >> Is shameful! >> My idea of leaving VO is growing! >> Regards. >> Francesco Leo > > Well 99 USD is quite cheap. > I can live with it! > -- > Paul Paul, is not a question of price but of fairness........... Regards Francesco |