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From: Ginny Caughey on 3 Sep 2009 15:22 Of course you can. ;-) I was just checking to see whether the $99 charge would affect you because you still rely on VO, or if you're like Erik and really don't care at this point. I think the point is that unless Grafx can generate a revenue stream to pay for future service packs, there just won't be any. Anybody who's in business understands this very well. -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message news:4aa00126$0$34622$4fafbaef(a)reader4.news.tin.it... > > "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> ha scritto nel > messaggio news:001bcb70$0$4877$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> Francesco, >> >> So are planning on dropping VO? Or do you just want to complain? >> >> -- >> >> Ginny Caughey >> www.wasteworks.com >> > > VO survive also without me, i want only express my opinion, after more of > ten years of vo i can? I hope so. > > Francesco
From: Power Neet on 3 Sep 2009 16:00 Hi Willie > FUNCTION Start() LOCAL X FOR X:=1 TO 10 ? maxatom() ? Val("GRAFX001") ? maxatom() WAIT NEXT > RETURN NIL > Try it, alwin
From: Meinhard Schnoor-Matriciani on 3 Sep 2009 15:52 > this is NOT true at all. I second that. Regards Meinhard
From: Karl Faller on 3 Sep 2009 16:07 Alwin, won't compile, "bad statement syntax" in the "Grafx" line... Karl >Hi Willie > >> FUNCTION Start() > LOCAL X > FOR X:=1 TO 10 > ? maxatom() > � � � � ? Val("GRAFX001") � � > ? maxatom() > WAIT > NEXT >> RETURN NIL >> > > >Try it, > >alwin
From: E®!k /!sser on 3 Sep 2009 16:08
"Robert van der Hulst" <E-55525A53-3540-E(a)heliks.nl> schreef in bericht news:1471734141.20090903183824(a)heliks.nl... > Hi E�!k, > On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, at 16:55:58 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:55 where I live) > you wrote about: 'Service Pack 3 for Visual Objects 2.8' > >> SP2 made clear the VOPS is not even close to a beta forum. After Geoff >> has >> been wiped out there, there was (and probebly still is) nobody who >> installs >> the new releases and tests them with real-life apps right away. That lead >> to >> a buggy SP2 release with several new introduced bugs..It just wasn't >> tested >> in real life. > > VOPS is _not_ a beta forum. And you have already heard from a couple of > our > subscribers that they don't agree with you. I know many more think the > same as > Willy and Wolfgang, but they don't want to waste time replying to your > post. So if al those so many developers use new builds right away, how come the obvious bugs of SP2 made it to the public release? > >> Shortly after the release of SP2 Robert announce a quick and free patch >> for >> the new introduced shortcomings. >> Never seen that ( outside the VOPS forum) > > That is not correct. Brian clearly stated that SP2 is the last free > update. We > have indeed considered a patch to this update, but we have never > communicated > that this patch would be free. > > I apologize if a false impression was made by me. OK, accepted. > SP3 is the patch that was mentioned in previous posts by Brian and me on > this > newsgroup. > > And come on, what amount of money are we talking about: USD 99 is EUR 69 > at this > moment. Your time spent on this newsgroup costs much more. Perhaps it is not about the money? Difficult to say so long afterwards, but if I had to pay double for SP2 (before I met the issues) I might have done so. But the fact we now how to pay for fixes for things that were broken in SP2 is not a fair way of doing things. If fact it is more like a trap. On the other hand, this and my other bad experiences with Grafx stimulated me to have a good look at C# and that is something I do not regret.... But who garantees we do not have to wait another year for fixes for the possible new introduced bugs in SP3 ? > >> If VO is no longer maintainted, CA can reclaim it. > > I doubt that anyone at CA is interested in a product with such a positive > user > group. The only thing CA is interested in is making money, and you clearly > don't > want to spend money on VO anymore. > >> That would be the only reason I can think of for Grafx to come with a >> 'fake' >> SP so once in a while. > > The real reason for the SP is to give the people like you who are soooo > happy > with C# whatever language they have moved to a chance to come to this > newsgroup > and complain ;-) If it makes you feel good coping critisism by not taking it serious, be my guest. Erik |