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From: Jamal on 4 Sep 2009 18:15 Willie, Where is this group? Jamal "Willie Moore" <williem(a)wmconsulting.com> wrote in message news:h7q16o$qn1$1(a)aioe.org... Geoff, Actually there is a beta group for both VO and Vulcan. Regards, Willie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4392 (20090903) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Geoff Schaller on 4 Sep 2009 23:25 Interesting. After Brian closed the beta group with the establishment of the VOPS, he has not many any announcement that it has been reinstated, how it is composed or who might be on it. Even with CA the existence of a beta group was a formal process and even the key participants were published to the remainder of the community. If there is a formal beta group and it is not the VOPS then I am guessing it is one or two people only. Hardly a practical beta arrangement. Geoff "Willie Moore" <williem(a)wmconsulting.com> wrote in message news:h7q16o$qn1$1(a)aioe.org: > Geoff, > > Actually there is a beta group for both VO and Vulcan. > > Regards, > Willie > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4392 (20090903) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
From: Power Neet on 5 Sep 2009 04:10 I am very intrested in what is done currently about bugs reported at support.cavo.com I see a lot of bugs reported there and they are still open. I guess this means that a) The bugs aren't followed up. b) The bugs are resolved but no feedback is given. c) There is no intresm any more since they are develloping Vulcan... 99 dollar, no problem at all. But what is fixed ???? Alwin
From: Infoservice on 5 Sep 2009 04:47 [....] > If you use VO, just buy SP3! If your pride is preventing you for doing it, > I'll be happy to buy SP3 for you as a gift to show my thanks for what you > meant for me and our software in the past. Just drop a note! Well maybe you should read posts before replying. > If you are not using VO anymore, please leave this forum and migrate to > the Microsoft C# forum please! Your comments here are helping nobody! Also your answers do not help the meaningless forum. I express my opinion, whether you like it or not, and you're not forced to read or respond. When and if I decide to leave vo is only my problem, not your concern. Regards. Francesco Leo > My 2 cents... > > -- > Grtz, Marc > > > "E�!k \/!sser" <nospam(a)nospam.com> schreef in bericht > news:7ga3o0F2oupbtU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Hi Ginny, >> >> with all respect: >>> 1. I'm pretty sure that Grafx announced that sp 2 would be the last free >>> upgrade for VO. at the time sp 2 was released. Was sp 2 perfect? No. >>> Will sp 3 be perfect? No. That's life. >> >> SP2 made clear the VOPS is not even close to a beta forum. After Geoff >> has been wiped out there, there was (and probebly still is) nobody who >> installs the new releases and tests them with real-life apps right away. >> That lead to a buggy SP2 release with several new introduced bugs..It >> just wasn't tested in real life. >> Shortly after the release of SP2 Robert announce a quick and free patch >> for the new introduced shortcomings. >> Never seen that ( outside the VOPS forum) >> >>> 2. I think $99 for VO only is pretty reasonable. I guess you don't but I >>> think most people would. As I understand it the $99 sp 3 version is the >>> latest and greatest available on VOPS and represents a year's work. >> >> A year's work? If it takes a year between a SP2 and a SP3 release, that >> does not mean it was a year's work. If you look at the what's new list, >> you must agree this could be done within a month or so. >> Brian is businessman enough to not pay Robert for a year for only >> producing this release. >> On the other hand, this would explain the little progress on Vulcan... >> <g> >> >> I would be happy to pay USD 100 for a yearly update/fixes. But as Robert >> wrote in another posting, VO is (in my own words) like Michael Jackson: >> dead and waiting to be barried. So if Grafx is not going to support the >> product any longer, why should we support Grafx? >> If VO is no longer maintainted, CA can reclaim it. That would be the only >> reason I can think of for Grafx to come with a 'fake' SP so once in a >> while. >> >> >> Erik >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Ginny Caughey >>> www.wasteworks.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message >>> news:4a9fca4b$0$43592$4fafbaef(a)reader1.news.tin.it... >>>> Brian, >>>> sure, and all were hoping for a VOPS only for VO at reasonable prices, >>>> but we have not had. >>>> Many people would buy and the development would be ensured. >>>> But today, with. NET on doors, I do believe that Vulcan will still have >>>> fewer users of Vo. >>>> The question, limited to of SP3, is not in money but in a way. >>>> Not to maintain that promise does not help the reputation of a company >>>> like Grafx >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Francesco >>>> >>>> >>>> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> ha scritto nel >>>> messaggio news:PPBnm.15511$ze1.14271(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>>>> Francesco. >>>>> >>>>> Whilst I sympathise with your sentiment, the reality is that the VO >>>>> community is very small. The product contains issues and problems well >>>>> before GrafX took it over and whilst I agree that they should provide >>>>> patches for the new bugs they introduce, we have to support the >>>>> product somehow. This is perhaps the only way we will get anything >>>>> because I am certain VO is no longer a money spinner for anyone. >>>>> >>>>> Although I know there are literally 1000's of VO apps in operation out >>>>> there, active supporting developers would now number less than 600 >>>>> world-wide and the visible number of these is less than 200. It is a >>>>> very small user base to support. >>>>> >>>>> Geoff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message >>>>> news:4a9e5005$0$34620$4fafbaef(a)reader4.news.tin.it: >>>>> >>>>>> Brian, >>>>>> why paying for service packs? I shall correct my program's bug free! >>>>>> Is >>>>>> shameful! >>>>>> My idea of leaving VO is growing! >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Francesco Leo >>>>> >>>> >> >
From: Harry B. on 5 Sep 2009 07:52
I'm missing the issue IDs from support.cavo.com in the change log, too! Regards, Harry B. |