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From: Geoff Schaller on 2 Sep 2009 17:53 Francesco. Whilst I sympathise with your sentiment, the reality is that the VO community is very small. The product contains issues and problems well before GrafX took it over and whilst I agree that they should provide patches for the new bugs they introduce, we have to support the product somehow. This is perhaps the only way we will get anything because I am certain VO is no longer a money spinner for anyone. Although I know there are literally 1000's of VO apps in operation out there, active supporting developers would now number less than 600 world-wide and the visible number of these is less than 200. It is a very small user base to support. Geoff "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message news:4a9e5005$0$34620$4fafbaef(a)reader4.news.tin.it: > Brian, > why paying for service packs? I shall correct my program's bug free! Is > shameful! > My idea of leaving VO is growing! > Regards. > Francesco Leo
From: E®!k /!sser on 3 Sep 2009 04:05 Hi Ginny, > It's great to see you! Thank you, great to see you too! > > I do see your point given that you supported VOPS for so many years. > Perhaps I would feel the same way except I've been running 2831 (just > after the public sp 2 release) so I don't see all the issues you do. (In > case anybody is wondering, I've stayed on 2831 because it has been very > solid in the field for me with Classmate and Vo2Ado, and testing > everything again and updating my many customer machines to new runtime > DLLs is a bigger chore than you might imagine.) I no longer use SP2 either. In fact I use very little VO these days. Most of the time nowadays I use C# .. > At the same time, I'm a very pragmatic person, and if paying under $100 > would solve annoying problems, then that would be a good investment. Maybe > a good compromise in your situation would be an eval version of 2834 so > you can determine if the upgrade would be worth it. Or just pay the money > and complain loudly if it isn't an improvement. ;-) I do not want to support Grafx in any way.... To much lies, half-truths and manipulations. Erik > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > > > > > "E�!k \/!sser" <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:7g7fq6F2mhd0qU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Hi Ginny, >> >>> Although I like free stuff as much as the next girl, I think it's >>> unreasonable to expect Grafx, which took over VO when it was horribly >>> bug ridden, to keep hacking away at all those bugs for free. They've >>> already paid for the fixes in sp3, but without revenue for more fixes at >>> some point they just have to stop making them. >> >> Hacking away bugs for free? >> If I recall right, after Grafx took over VO (and nobody forced brian to >> do so) I have paid for 2.6, 2.7 and 2.8 (and not to mention the money I >> have thrown away with VOPS) >> Most of those releases were bugfixes, not very much new stuff. And some >> of the new stuff, was payed by a large company in private as they needed >> the functionality. (like VSS support) >> >> The announced released is needed to fix the new and very annoying bugs, >> introduced in the previous release. >> Remember a quick and free fix for this was announced almost a year ago. >> Having to pay for that is like free parking, you only have to pay for >> removing the wheel-clamp >> IMO, on a scale from honest business to blackmail, it is closer to the >> last. >> >> >>> What is shameful is how buggy VO was several years ago. What is amazing >>> is that we all still managed to use it to the point where we depend on >>> it and how much it has improved since then with such a tiny team. >> >> How long do you accept Grafx to hide behind the CA devteam ? >> VO 2.6, the first Grafx build, was released in 2002! Over 7 years ago!! >> http://www.grafxsoft.com/pr.htm >> >> >> regards, >> >> Erik >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
From: Ginny Caughey on 3 Sep 2009 06:27 Hi Erik, As you know I like C# too and find it very productive, but sometimes Microsoft makes breaking changes too. I just found out this week that all my apps that write to the Event Log now have to be run as administrator due to a recent security patch. Obviously that's not going to make administrators happy, so I've been replacing the logging code so it writes elsewhere. Not nice. -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com >
From: Power Neet on 3 Sep 2009 07:54 Hi erik, Nice to speak to you again... > I do not want to support Grafx in any way.... To much lies, half-truths and > manipulations. > > Erik Now i still have one question left to Brian, Will my bug be fixed in that version. Simply said VAL() function overflows the atom table when evaluated on non-numeric values. (i.e. VAL("Grafx001") creates an atom item....) Still waiting.... Alwin
From: Willie Moore on 3 Sep 2009 09:32
Alwin, Your val("grafx001") returns 0 in SP3. I do not have any earlier version of 2.8 on my machine so I cannot comment on what it returned in the past. Regards, Willie FUNCTION Start() ? Val("GRAFX001") WAIT RETURN NIL __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4391 (20090903) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |