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From: Willie Moore on 3 Sep 2009 11:24 Erik, I run and test each new version of VO before I release my apps. I already have production apps in 2834. They are all running very smoothly. Regards, Willie __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4392 (20090903) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: Infoservice on 3 Sep 2009 12:45 Ginny, each company is free to operate as he wishes, but can not complain if you lose customers .... He said it was the last free, but also promised to solve the known bugs, and instead ..... Regards. Francesco Leo "Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:001ba023$0$19709$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Francesco, > > A couple of points: > > 1. I'm pretty sure that Grafx announced that sp 2 would be the last free > upgrade for VO. at the time sp 2 was released. Was sp 2 perfect? No. Will > sp 3 be perfect? No. That's life. > 2. I think $99 for VO only is pretty reasonable. I guess you don't but I > think most people would. As I understand it the $99 sp 3 version is the > latest and greatest available on VOPS and represents a year's work. > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > > > > > "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message > news:4a9fca4b$0$43592$4fafbaef(a)reader1.news.tin.it... >> Brian, >> sure, and all were hoping for a VOPS only for VO at reasonable prices, >> but we have not had. >> Many people would buy and the development would be ensured. >> But today, with. NET on doors, I do believe that Vulcan will still have >> fewer users of Vo. >> The question, limited to of SP3, is not in money but in a way. >> Not to maintain that promise does not help the reputation of a company >> like Grafx >> Regards >> >> Francesco >> >> >> "Geoff Schaller" <geoffx(a)softxwareobjectives.com.au> ha scritto nel >> messaggio news:PPBnm.15511$ze1.14271(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... >>> Francesco. >>> >>> Whilst I sympathise with your sentiment, the reality is that the VO >>> community is very small. The product contains issues and problems well >>> before GrafX took it over and whilst I agree that they should provide >>> patches for the new bugs they introduce, we have to support the product >>> somehow. This is perhaps the only way we will get anything because I am >>> certain VO is no longer a money spinner for anyone. >>> >>> Although I know there are literally 1000's of VO apps in operation out >>> there, active supporting developers would now number less than 600 >>> world-wide and the visible number of these is less than 200. It is a >>> very small user base to support. >>> >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> >>> "Infoservice" <pippo(a)aol.it> wrote in message >>> news:4a9e5005$0$34620$4fafbaef(a)reader4.news.tin.it: >>> >>>> Brian, >>>> why paying for service packs? I shall correct my program's bug free! Is >>>> shameful! >>>> My idea of leaving VO is growing! >>>> Regards. >>>> Francesco Leo >>> >>
From: Robert van der Hulst on 3 Sep 2009 12:38 Hi E�!k, On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, at 16:55:58 [GMT +0200] (which was 16:55 where I live) you wrote about: 'Service Pack 3 for Visual Objects 2.8' > SP2 made clear the VOPS is not even close to a beta forum. After Geoff has > been wiped out there, there was (and probebly still is) nobody who installs > the new releases and tests them with real-life apps right away. That lead to > a buggy SP2 release with several new introduced bugs..It just wasn't tested > in real life. VOPS is _not_ a beta forum. And you have already heard from a couple of our subscribers that they don't agree with you. I know many more think the same as Willy and Wolfgang, but they don't want to waste time replying to your post. > Shortly after the release of SP2 Robert announce a quick and free patch for > the new introduced shortcomings. > Never seen that ( outside the VOPS forum) That is not correct. Brian clearly stated that SP2 is the last free update. We have indeed considered a patch to this update, but we have never communicated that this patch would be free. I apologize if a false impression was made by me. SP3 is the patch that was mentioned in previous posts by Brian and me on this newsgroup. And come on, what amount of money are we talking about: USD 99 is EUR 69 at this moment. Your time spent on this newsgroup costs much more. > If VO is no longer maintainted, CA can reclaim it. I doubt that anyone at CA is interested in a product with such a positive user group. The only thing CA is interested in is making money, and you clearly don't want to spend money on VO anymore. > That would be the only reason I can think of for Grafx to come with a 'fake' > SP so once in a while. The real reason for the SP is to give the people like you who are soooo happy with C# whatever language they have moved to a chance to come to this newsgroup and complain ;-) -- Robert
From: Ginny Caughey on 3 Sep 2009 13:12 Francesco, So are planning on dropping VO? Or do you just want to complain? -- Ginny Caughey www.wasteworks.com >
From: Infoservice on 3 Sep 2009 13:46
"Ginny Caughey" <ginny.caughey.online(a)wasteworks.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:001bcb70$0$4877$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... > Francesco, > > So are planning on dropping VO? Or do you just want to complain? > > -- > > Ginny Caughey > www.wasteworks.com > VO survive also without me, i want only express my opinion, after more of ten years of vo i can? I hope so. Francesco |