From: Gordon on 9 Aug 2007 17:41 On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:15:40 -0700, Paul Cardinale <pcardinale(a)volcanomail.com> wrote: > >Eeyore wrote: (snip) >> Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years. >> > >And in that time he'll make tons of money from his investments in >carbon-credit brokerage firms. He's not stupid; he's evil. > >Paul Cardinale > Right, on this. I can't say add anything to your assessment. Gordon
From: Gordon on 9 Aug 2007 18:02 On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:22:40 -0000, BradGuth <bradguth(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Aug 8, 5:57 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >wrote: >> LOL ! >> >> Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years. >> >> Graham > >Just because Al Gore isn't Yiddish enough, is this why the rest of you >folks don't like him? > >The regular laws of physics and the science is there to behold, >whereas at least 10% and possibly as great as 25% of the ongoing GW >fiasco is in fact human related. > >All the rest of our environmental demise has to do with the 5.556e16 >w.h or the 2e20 joules worth of applied gravity/tidal factors that you >silly folks of Yiddish naysayism can divide up any way you'd like. >- Brad Guth > Those danged primitive hominids that first figured out how to use wood for camp fires started this on-going global warming trend, I guess, huh? For approximately the past 12,000 years this planet has been warming at a rate determined by the remaining polar ice area. As the polar ice sheet recedes and the exposed earth absorbs more sunlight, the warming rate increases. It is sort of like watching the liquid level as a large cone-shaped funnel drains. When the funnel is full and the liquid area is large the level changes rather slowly, but as the funnel empties and the liquid surface area diminishes down the funnel's cone, the level drops at an ever increasing rate. One can see a similar demonstration of this effect when a bath tub is drained. Have you ever noticed how the last bit of water seems to rush down the drain at an accelerated rate? Like that last bit of water draining from a bath tub, the polar ice surface area is now diminishing at a very rapid rate, and as the polar ice melts and soil is exposed to sunlight, the absorption vs reflection changes. More warm soil equates to accelerated global warming. Gordon
From: RichD on 9 Aug 2007 18:14 On Aug 9, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > He's a career pol, with limitless power lust, > > as do they all. Does that necessarily equate > > to evil? > > 1 Timothy 6:10: > For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some > coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced > themselves through with many sorrows. > > You decide. That's a typo (couldn't be an actual error, being the Word). It should read: "For the love of UNEARNED money is the root of all evil, whilst the making of an honest buck is the source of all good." -- Rich
From: Jim Thompson on 9 Aug 2007 18:29 On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:22:40 -0000, BradGuth <bradguth(a)gmail.com> wrote: [snip] > >Just because Al Gore isn't Yiddish enough, is this why the rest of you >folks don't like him? > >The regular laws of physics and the science is there to behold, >whereas at least 10% and possibly as great as 25% of the ongoing GW >fiasco is in fact human related. > >All the rest of our environmental demise has to do with the 5.556e16 >w.h or the 2e20 joules worth of applied gravity/tidal factors that you >silly folks of Yiddish naysayism can divide up any way you'd like. >- Brad Guth Now there's a really scientific outburst. And this ignoramus probably votes. We need to go back to restricting voting rights to just property owners. That would thin things down a bit. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave
From: James Arthur on 9 Aug 2007 22:58
On Aug 9, 10:50 am, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > James Arthur wrote: > > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > > > > > > noticed? I thought not. > > > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > > > > > the meeja won't be interested. > > > > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > > > > > Graham > > > > > See page 2 of this: > > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html > > > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed > > > economy. > > > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. > > By what indicator? White House press release volume? > > Durable goods orders and shipments are mixed, new home starts are way > down, the stock market is oscillating wildly, GFP annual growth rate > is 1.2% (low on historic scale). But cheer up: e-commerce sales are > doing nicely. All that online shopping may be impacting worker > productivity. By what measure do you consider the economy depressed? You've mentioned a few d/dt items, nothing more. We're backing off a period of unsustainable growth, which is a good thing. Besides, yours would be a current complaint, not an explanation for 2006. The simple explanation is that Americans conserved, and used less 'carbon intensive' energy sources. Cheers, James Arthur |