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From: Richard Henry on 9 Aug 2007 02:22 On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > James Arthur wrote: > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > > > noticed? I thought not. > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > > the meeja won't be interested. > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > > Graham > > See page 2 of this: > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed economy.
From: RichD on 9 Aug 2007 03:58 On Aug 8, Paul Cardinale <pcardin...(a)volcanomail.com> wrote: > > Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years. > > And in that time he'll make tons of money from his > investments in carbon-credit brokerage firms. He's not > stupid; he's evil. He's a career pol, with limitless power lust, as do they all. Does that necessarily equate to evil? -- Rich
From: Robert Latest on 9 Aug 2007 04:44 John Larkin wrote: > The F-line electric streetcars are 60 to almost 100 years old, and are > quiet and efficient. Oh, I know them and I like them. But they're still a joke compared to any modern electric streetcar system. > They suffer from the congestion downtown. And they cause the > congestion downtown. An efficient, modern bus system doesn't cause congestion. > The existing electric busses scoot up hills that some fully-loaded > diesels can't climb. I know; that's what I said. But those fifty-year-old buses are falling apart, and no replacement is in sight. No-one makes buses, electric or otherwise, that could negotiate some of those SF hills. > Sometimes diesel drivers ask the passengers to > get off and hike up the hill to meet him at the top. That's pretty cute, but it is not an option of public transportation is to be taken seriously. Mind you, I love SF and pretty much all aspects of it. I've spent months (cumulative) in that city and hope to continue to do so. I've ridden the line 23 bus where the driver shouted something unintelligeble out of the window across the street at every corner, until at some point I got it that he shouted "I'm your 23" at the people waiting for the bus in the other direction, meaning that they'd have to wait for this bus until he was on the return trip. I asked him why that was, and he told me that two of the three buses ahead of him had broken down during the day, and that the driver of the third hadn't shown up for work that morning. Another time an electric bus tried to overtake another one parked at a stop by inertia alone, lost (of course) the overhead connection but "starved" in the lane next to the other bus. He had to wait for a diesel bus to "bump" him from behind to get back into the electrified line. I was there on vacation visiting friends and enjoyed every minute of those experiences. And I like the "MUNI" logo, too. The Muni bus and streetcar service, however, is not a "system", it's a joke. A transportation system must be reliable and punctual. It's no wonder that most people on those buses look like they don't have to be at any particular place at any particular time. In Germany you'll find a timetable at each stop, and you can pretty much set your watch by the arrival of the buses or trains. During rush hour of course they don't give exact times but just something like, "each 3 minutes" or so. That said, I must admit that much of SF, topographically speaking, is a hard area for any large and heavy vehicle to navigate quickly and efficiently. robert
From: RichD on 9 Aug 2007 05:38 On Aug 8, Dan Bloomquist <publi...(a)lakeweb.com> wrote: > >>Shockingly expensive. $75,000 per vehicle just for batteries. > >>http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/altair_nanotech.html > > > Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the > > ENVIRONMENT...... > > But 'we' will ignore human nature and real world economies....... > One's ideals have nothing to do with our current paradigm.... A story: Some years ago, I'm entering a Safeway, a pretty girl accosts me, she wants a signature on a petition to nuke the baby seals or something. I retort: "We have enough taxes and feelgood ecoprograms, I'l pass." She answers: "It won't require new taxes, it willl be funded by bonds." Yes folks, a breakthrough in political economy... gubmit programs can be paid for with bonds, NO TAXES NEEDED. She was sweet and earnest and dim, a concerned citizen.. and a voter. Scary, huh? -- Rich
From: MooseFET on 9 Aug 2007 05:51
On Aug 8, 6:51 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > MooseFET wrote: > > The new carbon fiber pressure tanks are very light and extremely > > strong. > > Blah blah blah blah blah. Another stupid American > > Do your schools teach intentional stupidity ? Out of logical arguments I see. Oh well. |