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From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 10 Aug 2007 13:34 On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:22:40 +0000, BradGuth wrote: > On Aug 8, 5:57 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >> LOL ! >> >> Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years. > > Just because Al Gore isn't Yiddish enough, is this why the rest of you > folks don't like him? This contributes a lot to the science here. </sarcasm> > The regular laws of physics and the science is there to behold, > whereas at least 10% and possibly as great as 25% of the ongoing GW > fiasco is in fact human related. The GW *FIASCO* is, in fact, human related, by lunatics like Al Gore screaming, "The sky is falling, and it's your fault!!!!!" "Global Warming" itself is a natural thing and is going to happen anyway, just like global cooling - the right answer isn't to devote all of humankind to some kind of doomed project to try to control the climate, but to learn to adapt to changing conditions, which is what free people do best. Thanks, Rich
From: James Arthur on 10 Aug 2007 14:14 On Aug 10, 6:43 am, MooseFET <kensm...(a)rahul.net> wrote: > On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > James Arthur wrote: > > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > > > > > > noticed? I thought not. > > > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > > > > > the meeja won't be interested. > > > > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > > > > > Graham > > > > > See page 2 of this: > > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html > > > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed > > > economy. > > > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. > > The economy is doing so-so at best. We have a mixed collection of > measures of it. Indications are always mixed--it's quite impossible for all sectors to simultaneously boom, as many are in competition. Overall, growth, inflation, employment, etc. are as good as it gets. If you're not happy now, you never will be. > > I did find it interesting that there's a surge in CO2 every election > > year. :-) > > Everyone was holding their breath. My theory: politicians flitting about in their private jets. ;-) Cheers, James Arthur
From: Eeyore on 10 Aug 2007 15:56 Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > BradGuth wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > >> LOL ! > >> > >> Al Gore is going to look such an idiot in a couple of years. > > > > Just because Al Gore isn't Yiddish enough, is this why the rest of you > > folks don't like him? > > This contributes a lot to the science here. </sarcasm> > > > The regular laws of physics and the science is there to behold, > > whereas at least 10% and possibly as great as 25% of the ongoing GW > > fiasco is in fact human related. > > The GW *FIASCO* is, in fact, human related, by lunatics like Al Gore > screaming, "The sky is falling, and it's your fault!!!!!" > > "Global Warming" itself is a natural thing and is going to happen > anyway, just like global cooling - the right answer isn't to devote all of > humankind to some kind of doomed project to try to control the climate, > but to learn to adapt to changing conditions, which is what free people do > best. Do they teach the story of Canute in the USA ? It seems curiously appropriate. Graham
From: James Arthur on 10 Aug 2007 19:43 On Jul 28, 12:59 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > gyansor...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > Can we now re-charge in say 10 mins? > > No. > > This is another reason why hybrids make more sense. Pure EVs have too many > limitations. > > Graham A little late, perhaps, to comment on the first posting of this thread, but what of Toshiba's 1-minute [sic] Li-Ion cells? Great potential, IMHO. Toshiba Lithium Ion Batteries (80% charge in 1 minute): http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2005_03/pr2901.htm http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/toshibarsquos_f.html related discussion: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jan2006/nf20060124_5834.htm Cheers, James Arthur
From: MooseFET on 10 Aug 2007 21:29
On Aug 10, 11:14 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 10, 6:43 am, MooseFET <kensm...(a)rahul.net> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > James Arthur wrote: > > > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > > > > > > > noticed? I thought not. > > > > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > > > > > > the meeja won't be interested. > > > > > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > See page 2 of this: > > > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html > > > > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed > > > > economy. > > > > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. > > > The economy is doing so-so at best. We have a mixed collection of > > measures of it. > > Indications are always mixed--it's quite impossible for all sectors to > simultaneously boom, as many are in competition. > > Overall, growth, inflation, employment, etc. are as good as it gets. > If you're not happy now, you never will be. You haven't looked closely enough. Right now the US is running a large deficit and has quite low interest rates. These are both things that in the short term stimulate the economy. It is like a car with the gas pressed all the way to the floor and only gets up to 45 MPH. It is a lot faster than I can run but still a lot less that should be expected. The US has a decreasing size of middle class. The working class is seeing a net loss of standard of living. Most of the middle class is also seeing a decrease in standard of living. The debt is piling up and the average worker age is increasing. None of these are things by them selves would be a major problem but combined they point to a decline. There is also a serious concentration of power and wealth happening. The trend is towards a small number of companies being a big fraction of the economy. This is never a good thing for the long term survival of an empire. It leads to a fragile situation. With many small companies, a mistake only impacts a small part of the economy. Increasingly, a mistake by a company impacts a larger part of the overal economy. > > > > I did find it interesting that there's a surge in CO2 every election > > > year. :-) > > > Everyone was holding their breath. > > My theory: politicians flitting about in their private jets. ;-) No, that can't be it. We would also see a spike in the water vapor in the upper atmosphere. > > Cheers, > James Arthur |