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From: John Larkin on 9 Aug 2007 23:07 On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:58:29 -0700, James Arthur <dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Aug 9, 10:50 am, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > James Arthur wrote: >> > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone >> > > > > > noticed? I thought not. >> >> > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, >> > > > > the meeja won't be interested. >> >> > > > > Do you have a link for that ? >> >> > > > > Graham >> >> > > > See page 2 of this: >> > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html >> >> > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed >> > > economy. >> >> > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. >> >> By what indicator? White House press release volume? >> >> Durable goods orders and shipments are mixed, new home starts are way >> down, the stock market is oscillating wildly, GFP annual growth rate >> is 1.2% (low on historic scale). But cheer up: e-commerce sales are >> doing nicely. All that online shopping may be impacting worker >> productivity. > >By what measure do you consider the economy depressed? You've >mentioned a few d/dt items, nothing more. We're backing off a period >of unsustainable growth, which is a good thing. > >Besides, yours would be a current complaint, not an explanation for >2006. The simple explanation is that Americans conserved, and used >less 'carbon intensive' energy sources. > >Cheers, >James Arthur Quit being such an optimist. Nobody likes an optimist. John
From: MooseFET on 10 Aug 2007 10:43 On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > James Arthur wrote: > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > > > > > noticed? I thought not. > > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > > > > the meeja won't be interested. > > > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > > > > Graham > > > > See page 2 of this: > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html > > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed > > economy. > > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. The economy is doing so-so at best. We have a mixed collection of measures of it. > I did find it interesting that there's a surge in CO2 every election > year. :-) Everyone was holding their breath. > > Cheers, > James Arthur
From: MooseFET on 10 Aug 2007 10:49 On Aug 9, 10:40 am, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > "BradGuth" <bradg...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1186676826.644798.326820(a)z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Why are you against a Hummer/SUV that gets 100 empg and creates zero > > NOx? > > You find a practical way to move a real-world three-ton wheeled > vehicle 100 miles on a gallon-of-gas-equivalent, and I guarantee > you you'll have PLENTY of people's attention. > > But you don't really have that, do you? That was done years ago. Unfortunately, it results in an average speed of about 15MPH. On level ground, the friction losses can be made low enough at low speeds to get very long ranges out of a small amount of gas.
From: Shadowland on 10 Aug 2007 11:12 On Aug 8, 8:47 pm, RichD <r_delaney2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! Oh no you didn't say that...Scotty beam me up !!
From: James Arthur on 10 Aug 2007 12:41
On Aug 9, 7:07 pm, John Larkin <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:58:29 -0700, James Arthur > > > > <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Aug 9, 10:50 am, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On Aug 9, 9:59 am, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > On Aug 8, 10:22 pm, Richard Henry <pomer...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > On Aug 8, 9:57 pm, James Arthur <dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > > > On Aug 8, 3:42 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > James Arthur wrote: > >> > > > > > Meanwhile, the US' total CO2 output fell last year. Has anyone > >> > > > > > noticed? I thought not. > > >> > > > > Obviously since it's not something that can result in increased fear and alarm, > >> > > > > the meeja won't be interested. > > >> > > > > Do you have a link for that ? > > >> > > > > Graham > > >> > > > See page 2 of this: > >> > > > http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/flash/flash.html > > >> > > The numbers indicate that this measure is an indicator of a depressed > >> > > economy. > > >> > Yes, the words say that, but the economy is thriving, not depressed. > > >> By what indicator? White House press release volume? > > >> Durable goods orders and shipments are mixed, new home starts are way > >> down, the stock market is oscillating wildly, GFP annual growth rate > >> is 1.2% (low on historic scale). But cheer up: e-commerce sales are > >> doing nicely. All that online shopping may be impacting worker > >> productivity. > > >By what measure do you consider the economy depressed? You've > >mentioned a few d/dt items, nothing more. We're backing off a period > >of unsustainable growth, which is a good thing. > > >Besides, yours would be a current complaint, not an explanation for > >2006. The simple explanation is that Americans conserved, and used > >less 'carbon intensive' energy sources. > > >Cheers, > >James Arthur > > Quit being such an optimist. Nobody likes an optimist. > > John Would it help if I were bitter? Cheers, James Arthur |