There is no “pull” of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!
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From: spudnik on 5 Mar 2010 11:44 ah, a Reverse Engineer from the Shrine of Roswell, New Mexico -- OMG, shag me with a spoon, rolling on the floor, trying to supress laughter (in a library). > > When airliners are in level flight, and traveling at cruising speed, > > you are still being pushed back in your seat, slightly, by the ether > > flowing through the plane. You will notice that you seem to be > > walking up hill when going to the little plumbing room. > > Oh dear. thus: when I "go away," I'll just tear myself away from uselessnet, altogether; if I's a hacker, I'd blow you out, with me! read Alfven. in the meantime, positrons spiral in the opposite bubble-tracks to electrons, as has been known for decades. >How would you identify an individual positron if it was emited? thus: wow; what Al and PD said about the pointiness of electrons, I'd never read of, before; prove them wrong! thus: didn't finish, but it began rather nicely. also, see about Weber's "magnetic molecule" as http://21stcenturysciencetech.com -- or knot. > http://www.amperefitz.com/lawrm.htm thus: the speed of light depends upon the density of the medium, viz the index of refraction, cf. the brachistochrone (tautochrone) of Bernoulli and Liebniz, the cannonical problem that defined "the" caclulus. the speed of sound depends upon the density of the medium; about 600mph at sea-level; clearly, that is an upper bound on the speed of wind at sea-level! --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: spudnik on 5 Mar 2010 15:07 I believe that commercial airliners, generally, do not engage in "level flight," but make some kind of *trajectory*, akin to the brachistochrone (for the "ray-tracing" of light in a stratified medium, air e.g.). also, note that Fermat's least-time principle is done in terms of rays (or the phictive foton), but that is just a formality. the trajectory wouldn't be bilaterally symmetrical around the highest reach, because of drag & so forth; eh? thus quoth: When airliners are in level flight, and traveling at cruising speed, you are still being pushed back in your seat, slightly, by the ether flowing through the plane. You will notice that you seem to be walking up hill when going to the little plumbing room. thus: there is no need of a resolution between wave & particle; they are just formal duals -- don't try to us both, at the same time! heat is infrared lightwaves. there is nothing wrong with saying that light "goes from A to B instantaneuosly in its own frame of reference," except that it doesn't have one, nor is aether necessitated as such. (there is no vacuum; it's just a verb.) thus quoth: Its [corpuscular theory] place is taken by the undulatory theory, first suggested by Huygens in 1690, reconciled to some extent with the discoveries of Newton by Euler, advocated by Hartley, and finally established by a study of the phenomenon of interference by Thomas Young and by Fresnel. This theory gives a complete explanation of all phenomena of light. According to this view, light, objectively considered, is simply a mode of motion of a substance called the luminiferous ether which pervades not only what is commonly regarded as space, but also all translucent substances. By the molecular movements of luminous bodies, this ether is set vibrating in a series of waves. thus: ah, a Reverse Engineer from the Shrine of Roswell, New Mexico -- OMG, shag me with a spoon, rolling on the floor, trying to supress laughter (in a library). thus: read Alfven. in the meantime, positrons spiral in the opposite bubble-tracks to electrons, as has been known for decades. thus: wow; what Al and PD said about the pointiness of electrons, I'd never read of, before; prove them wrong! thus: didn't finish, but it began rather nicely. also, see about Weber's "magnetic molecule" as http://21stcenturysciencetech.com -- or knot. > http://www.amperefitz.com/lawrm.htm thus: the speed of light depends upon the density of the medium, viz the index of refraction, cf. the brachistochrone (tautochrone) of Bernoulli and Liebniz, the cannonical problem that defined "the" caclulus. the speed of sound depends upon the density of the medium; about 600mph at sea-level; clearly, that is an upper bound on the speed of wind at sea-level! --Light: A History! http://wlym.com
From: glird on 5 Mar 2010 17:02 On Mar 5, 3:07 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I believe that snip > thus quoth: snip > > thus: snip > thus quoth: snip > thus: snip > thus: snip > thus: snip > thus: snip > > thus: > the speed of light depends upon the density of the medium, That's the first sensible thing you said in your overlong posting. It would be even better if you said that the speed of light depends on the density of the LUMINIFEROUS medium. :-] glird
From: NoEinstein on 8 Mar 2010 03:19 On Mar 5, 10:51 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: Tell me, guy: How is "Oh dear" a discussion of science? Did you forget and leave the kettle boiling? NoEinstein > > On Mar 5, 4:23 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 2, 6:04 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear mpc755: The 'push back'-in-your-seat while the plane is taking > > off and climbing to cruising altitude is due to the INERTIA of your > > body resisting being made to go faster. There is ether flow causing > > that 'push back'. The reason (observed) UFOs can change direction so > > quickly without having the 'g' forces kill the occupants is because > > UFOs control the ether envelope that must be there in order for there > > to be any 'g' forces at all. > > > When airliners are in level flight, and traveling at cruising speed, > > you are still being pushed back in your seat, slightly, by the ether > > flowing through the plane. You will notice that you seem to be > > walking up hill when going to the little plumbing room. > > Oh dear. > > > > > And walking > > downhill going back to your seat. Clocks on the space shuttle slow > > down in proportion to the total length of the flight. If acceleration > > was the only cause of the slowing, space flights of any length would > > cause identical slowing of the clocks, since the acceleration phases > > of each would be identical. NoEinstein > > > > On Mar 2, 5:58 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 8:31 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 26, 12:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Matter has ether flowing within it. Ether is the mother > > > > > > of creation, not matter. > > > > > > There is no ether other than matter itself. In harmony with my > > > > > belief that important words should be defiend the first time they are > > > > > used in written form, I defined ether as being the continuity aspect > > > > > of a material field, whether or not particles are part of it. > > > > > > Because matter cannot be created or destroyed, it always existed and > > > > > so did the five other basic items of which everything in the universe > > > > > is composed. As to 'creation", I long ago realized that Evolution is > > > > > God's method of creating what now exists. > > > > > > glird > > > > > Dear glird: Every time you ride on a jet airliner you get pushed back > > > > in your seat by the ether that is flowing through the plane, front to > > > > back. > > > > While accelerating. Not during constant momentum. > > > > > That same flowing ether will slow down all mechanical, atomic, > > > > and biological processes. Instead of making up your own ideas about > > > > physics, realize that in nearly four years that I have been using > > > > sci.physics, not a SINGLE person has shown that my NEW science is in > > > > any way wrong. You've got a very long way to go before you can match > > > > what I have accomplished. NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: NoEinstein on 8 Mar 2010 03:27
On Mar 5, 10:52 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 5, 4:27 am, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 3, 11:08 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 2, 4:58 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 26, 8:31 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 26, 12:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Matter has ether flowing within it. Ether is the mother > > > > > > of creation, not matter. > > > > > > There is no ether other than matter itself. In harmony with my > > > > > belief that important words should be defiend the first time they are > > > > > used in written form, I defined ether as being the continuity aspect > > > > > of a material field, whether or not particles are part of it. > > > > > > Because matter cannot be created or destroyed, it always existed and > > > > > so did the five other basic items of which everything in the universe > > > > > is composed. As to 'creation", I long ago realized that Evolution is > > > > > God's method of creating what now exists. > > > > > > glird > > > > > Dear glird: Every time you ride on a jet airliner you get pushed back > > > > in your seat by the ether that is flowing through the plane, front to > > > > back. > > > > Really? Then why do people sleep on airplanes, without their hair > > > streaming backwards as though they were in a breeze? > > > > > That same flowing ether will slow down all mechanical, atomic, > > > > and biological processes. Instead of making up your own ideas about > > > > physics, realize that in nearly four years that I have been using > > > > sci.physics, not a SINGLE person has shown that my NEW science is in > > > > any way wrong. You've got a very long way to go before you can match > > > > what I have accomplished. NoEinstein - Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Dear PD, the Parasite Dunce: Ether flow is by degrees. And it isn't > > something going around the body, but through the body and the hair. > > Both the body and the hair get pushed proportionately. NoEinstein > > Right, same with wind. Wind pushes the body and the hair. But the hair > is lighter so it responds to the wind more easily. So tell me again > why the hair does not blow backwards in the aether breeze you say is > there?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Wrong, PD! Lightweight hair responds to moving AIR more easily. Ether flows through the air and through the hair in proportion to the masses of each. Take a lead plumb bob and such will not hang vertically in a level-flight jetliner at a uniform cruising speed. NoEinstein |