From: spudnik on
why don't you just look it up,
the practice of commercial pilots?

> GET lost! — NE —-

thus:
science is about refining a hypothesis,
which doesn't have to be one's own. most of "global" warming is,
strictly, computerized simulacra & very selective reporting:
the "hole" in the ozone is really, "the sky is glowing!"

> Science is not about showing that somebody was wrong; it's about showing
> what is right. Do your own work, using your own data, and derive an
> analysis of your own. Then publish your result. THAT is science.

--Light: A History!
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--Weber's electron, Moon's nucleus!
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/sample.html

--Stop Cheeny, Rice, Waxman, ICC's 3rd British invasion of Sudan!
http://laroucehpub.com
From: bert on
On Mar 10, 12:05 am, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> why don't you just look it up,
> the practice of commercial pilots?
>
> > GET lost!  — NE —-
>
> thus:
> science is about refining a hypothesis,
> which doesn't have to be one's own.  most of "global" warming is,
> strictly, computerized simulacra & very selective reporting:
> the "hole" in the ozone is really, "the sky is glowing!"
>
> > Science is not about showing that somebody was wrong; it's about showing
> > what is right. Do your own work, using your own data, and derive an
> > analysis of your own. Then publish your result. THAT is science.
>
> --Light: A History!http://wlym.com
>
> --Weber's electron, Moon's nucleus!http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/sample.html
>
> --Stop Cheeny, Rice, Waxman, ICC's 3rd British invasion of  Sudan!http://laroucehpub.com

To Ya All Gravity as a push force has been kicked arounjd for
250years It creates more problems than it solves.. TreBert
From: mpc755 on
On Mar 10, 8:33 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 12:05 am, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > why don't you just look it up,
> > the practice of commercial pilots?
>
> > > GET lost!  — NE —-
>
> > thus:
> > science is about refining a hypothesis,
> > which doesn't have to be one's own.  most of "global" warming is,
> > strictly, computerized simulacra & very selective reporting:
> > the "hole" in the ozone is really, "the sky is glowing!"
>
> > > Science is not about showing that somebody was wrong; it's about showing
> > > what is right. Do your own work, using your own data, and derive an
> > > analysis of your own. Then publish your result. THAT is science.
>
> > --Light: A History!http://wlym.com
>
> > --Weber's electron, Moon's nucleus!http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/sample.html
>
> > --Stop Cheeny, Rice, Waxman, ICC's 3rd British invasion of  Sudan!http://laroucehpub.com
>
> To Ya All  Gravity as a push force has been kicked arounjd for
> 250years   It creates more problems than it solves..  TreBert

AFAIK, Newton rejected the aether as the reason for gravity because he
felt it would restrict the motion of the planets. Newton was unable to
comprehend the notion of frictionless supersolids and frictionless
superfluids. Newton was unable comprehend the notion of bodies
interaction with the aether as frictionless. Newton did not realize it
is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive
objects which is gravity.
From: spudnik on
well, the speed of sound is not any kind of limit,
other than for waves of sound. but,
what can your aetheric wanderings say about the speed of light, or
any other phenomenon? (yeah, I see that you think that
you have created a theory of gravity; yeeha .-)

> Spudnik: Compressed air released from a cannon can easily exceed the
> speed of sound.  But tell me: What does sound have to do with my
> present post on ether flow and gravity?  Please take your...

thus:
in his little essay, Fitz confuzed "bending of red" (spherical
abberation?)
with the "doppler" redshift (if it is due to velocity-away-from-us, or
to *acceleration* away from us -- cancel the programme du space ?!?)

thus quoth:
I came upon the Alpher, Bethe, Gamow piece in the course of pursuing
the trail of the nuclear hypothesis developed by my dear friend and
former collaborator, University of Chicago physical chemist and
physicist Dr. Robert J. Moon. Moon was the brilliant student of that
same Harkins who, for several decades, beginning about the time of
World War I, took the point against the reductionist school of atomic
and nuclear physics led by Rutherford and Bohr. We shall return to
that healthy tradition shortly. We first briefly review the story of
the overpriced letter.

caption: Harkins noted that three elements—Oxygen (O), Silicon (Si),
and Iron (Fe)—make up more than 80 percent of the atomic composition
of meteorites. Ten elements of even number make up 97.59 perent of the
meteorites. The extraordinary abundance of just a few of the 92
elements must be a clue to the stability of their nuclear structure.
The data are given for 350 stone and 10 iron meteorites.
Source: Harkins “The Building of Atoms and the New Periodic System,”
Science, Dec. 26, 1919, p. 581

In early 1948, George Gamow, the well-known physicist and writer then
at George Washington University, and R.A. Alpher launched their attack
on Harkins, et al., in the form of a new theory of the origin of the
chemical elements. Gamow, ever the merry prankster, asked Hans Bethe
to join in endorsing the effort, which was published as a letter to
The Physical Review in April 1948.1 Bethe (who as recently as 1990,
told 21st Century Associate Editor Charles B. Stevens that “the only
thing worse than cold fusion is Harkins”) was glad to join in, giving
the paper’s authorship its alphabeticality. We shall thus, henceforth,
refer to it as ABC Humbug.
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/fall%202003/Humbuggery.html

> >>http://www.amperefitz.com/einsteins.blunder.htm
> --http://www.canonicalscience.org/
> BLOG:http://www.canonicalscience.org/publications/canonicalsciencetoday/ca...- Hide quoted text -

thus:
no; n=4 is a very, very special case,
that required only "infinite descent," and
he did not follow that, one of hsi very few explicit proofs,
with a proviso about the general case. anyway,
the "theorem" seems to have been one of his earliest insights
into numbertheory; might it not?

> There is good circumstantial evidence that he did not; specifically,
> the fact that he produced a proof specific for n=4 at a later date but
> never mentioned the more general conjecture.

thus:
don't top-post, you God-am trollamatic!

> yep, JSH is pure Troll.- Hide quoted text -

--les OEuvres!
http://wlym.com

--Weber's electron, Moon's nucleus!
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com

--Stop Cheeny, Rice, Waxman and ICC's 3rd British invasion of Sudan!
http://laroucehpub.com
From: spudnik on
in other words, frictionless supersolids are like the "currents
in the solid mantle," and frictionless superfluids are like "aether"
--
no thing. there just is no vacuum, dood, as we know
by Pascal's 1654 experiment -- PX?

what sort of verifiable experiment do *you* have,
for your so-called theory?

> AFAIK, Newton rejected the aether as the reason for gravity because he
> felt it would restrict the motion of the planets. Newton was unable to
> comprehend the notion of frictionless supersolids and frictionless
> superfluids. Newton was unable comprehend the notion of bodies
> interaction with the aether as frictionless. Newton did not realize it
> is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive
> objects which is gravity.

thus:
well, the speed of sound is not any kind of limit,
other than for waves of sound. but,
what can your aetheric wanderings say about the speed of light, or
any other phenomenon? (yeah, I see that you think that
you have created a theory of gravity; yeeha .-)

thus:
in his little essay, Fitz confuzed "bending of red"
(wavelength-dependent refraction)
with the "doppler" redshift (if it is due to velocity-away-from-us, or
to *acceleration* away from us -- cancel the programme du space ?!?)

thus quoth:
I came upon the Alpher, Bethe, Gamow piece in the course of pursuing
the trail of the nuclear hypothesis developed by my dear friend and
former collaborator, University of Chicago physical chemist and
physicist Dr. Robert J. Moon. Moon was the brilliant student of that
same Harkins who, for several decades, beginning about the time of
World War I, took the point against the reductionist school of atomic
and nuclear physics led by Rutherford and Bohr. We shall return to
that healthy tradition shortly. We first briefly review the story of
the overpriced letter.

caption: Harkins noted that three elements—Oxygen (O), Silicon (Si),
and Iron (Fe)—make up more than 80 percent of the atomic composition
of meteorites. Ten elements of even number make up 97.59 perent of the
meteorites. The extraordinary abundance of just a few of the 92
elements must be a clue to the stability of their nuclear structure.
The data are given for 350 stone and 10 iron meteorites.
Source: Harkins “The Building of Atoms and the New Periodic System,”
Science, Dec. 26, 1919, p. 581

In early 1948, George Gamow, the well-known physicist and writer then
at George Washington University, and R.A. Alpher launched their attack
on Harkins, et al., in the form of a new theory of the origin of the
chemical elements. Gamow, ever the merry prankster, asked Hans Bethe
to join in endorsing the effort, which was published as a letter to
The Physical Review in April 1948.1 Bethe (who as recently as 1990,
told 21st Century Associate Editor Charles B. Stevens that “the only
thing worse than cold fusion is Harkins”) was glad to join in, giving
the paper’s authorship its alphabeticality. We shall thus, henceforth,
refer to it as ABC Humbug.
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/fall%202003/Humbuggery.html

> >>http://www.amperefitz.com/einsteins.blunder.htm
> --http://www.canonicalscience.org/
> BLOG:http://www.canonicalscience.org/publications/canonicalsciencetoday/ca...- Hide quoted text -

thus:
no; n=4 is a very, very special case,
that required only "infinite descent," and
he did not follow that, one of hsi very few explicit proofs,
with a proviso about the general case. anyway,
the "theorem" seems to have been one of his earliest insights
into numbertheory; might it not?

> There is good circumstantial evidence that he did not; specifically,
> the fact that he produced a proof specific for n=4 at a later date but
> never mentioned the more general conjecture.

thus:
don't top-post, you God-am trollamatic!

> yep, JSH is pure Troll.- Hide quoted text -

--les OEuvres!
http://wlym.com

--Weber's electron, Moon's nucleus!
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com

--Stop Cheeny, Rice, Waxman and ICC's 3rd British invasion of Sudan!
http://laroucehpub.com