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From: BURT on 24 Feb 2010 18:22 On Feb 24, 2:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In article <e8bee191-f7e2-4b91-bdba- > 31bcb76f9...(a)x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, macromi...(a)yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2:47 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > In article <c0a11028-392b-4141-b0ee-cd45dbd3e739 > > > @y7g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, macromi...(a)yahoo.com says... > > > > > On Feb 24, 2:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 5:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Spacetime is incorrect. The rate at which atomic clocks 'tick' has > > > > > nothing to do with time. Time is a concept. The rate at which atomic > > > > > clock's tick is based upon the aether pressure in which it exists..- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > So now space-time has no role in physics mpc? > > > > > Please depart from me. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Time is a concept. > > > > Atomic clocks 'tick' based on the aether pressure in which it exists. > > > > An objects momentum determines the aether pressure on and through the > > > object. The greater the momentum the greater the associated aether > > > pressure. The pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive > > > objects is gravity. > > > > The speed of a GPS satellite with respect to the aether causes it to > > > displace more aether and for that aether to exert more pressure on the > > > clock in the GPS satellite than the aether pressure associated with a > > > clock at rest with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite > > > clock to "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure > > > associated with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure > > > on the GPS satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth > > > "causing the GPS clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". > > > Combining the pressure associated with the speed at which the GPS > > > satellite moves with respect to the aether and the pressure associated > > > with the aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS > > > satellites tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the > > > ground". > > > (quoteshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). > > > You are really an idiot here. A concept is "a concept" according to > > you? > > > Duh. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Aether is displaced by matter. The aether is not at rest when displaced > and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure the aether > exerts towards the matter. The pressure associated with the aether is > based on motion and mass per volume. Motion being the pressure > associated with momentum or acceleration and gravity being the pressure > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Whatever floats your boat! But of course it is not true. Mitch Raemsch
From: Michael Moroney on 24 Feb 2010 18:35 mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> writes: >On Feb 24, 3:16 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) >wrote: >> >> Energy of photon = 511 kEv. (each of two) >> 511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg >> >> E = mc². >> >> Idiot. >The mass still exists in nature after an electron is 'annihilated'. >The matter which was the mass still exists, as aether. No need for any word "aether" here. Mass and energy are introconvertable, according to the famous e = mc², as long as certain other conservation rules are followed. The total mass-energy of a reaction is conserved, for example the e+e- annihilation, the "before" mass is 1.022 MeV (particle physicists usually simplify things by measuring mass using energy units) and "after" is two 511 kEv photons with total energy 1.022 MeV. >The mistake you are making above is you are directly equating energy >with mass: >511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg No mistake. Every experiment shows the total mass-energy of a reaction is conserved. Prove this wrong and go collect a Nobel Prize. >The step you are missing is what physically occurs in nature in order >for there to be energy. In order to represent what is occurring >physically in nature it is better described as the mass of the >electron, 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg, expands in three dimensional space >as it transitions from matter to aether. The physical effects this >increase in volume has on the surrounding matter and aether is 511 >kEv /c² of energy. Meaningless word salad.
From: mpc755 on 24 Feb 2010 18:39 In article <82e89984-6acf-494f-82ed-1dbd2ae623b4 @t31g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, macromitch(a)yahoo.com says... > > On Feb 24, 2:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > In article <e8bee191-f7e2-4b91-bdba- > > 31bcb76f9...(a)x1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, macromi...(a)yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2:47 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > In article <c0a11028-392b-4141-b0ee-cd45dbd3e739 > > > > @y7g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, macromi...(a)yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2:38 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 24, 5:31 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Spacetime is incorrect. The rate at which atomic clocks 'tick' has > > > > > > nothing to do with time. Time is a concept. The rate at which atomic > > > > > > clock's tick is based upon the aether pressure in which it exists.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > So now space-time has no role in physics mpc? > > > > > > > Please depart from me. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > Time is a concept. > > > > > > Atomic clocks 'tick' based on the aether pressure in which it exists. > > > > > > An objects momentum determines the aether pressure on and through the > > > > object. The greater the momentum the greater the associated aether > > > > pressure. The pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive > > > > objects is gravity. > > > > > > The speed of a GPS satellite with respect to the aether causes it to > > > > displace more aether and for that aether to exert more pressure on the > > > > clock in the GPS satellite than the aether pressure associated with a > > > > clock at rest with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite > > > > clock to "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure > > > > associated with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure > > > > on the GPS satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth > > > > "causing the GPS clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". > > > > Combining the pressure associated with the speed at which the GPS > > > > satellite moves with respect to the aether and the pressure associated > > > > with the aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS > > > > satellites tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the > > > > ground". > > > > (quoteshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). > > > > > You are really an idiot here. A concept is "a concept" according to > > > you? > > > > > Duh. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Aether is displaced by matter. The aether is not at rest when displaced > > and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure the aether > > exerts towards the matter. The pressure associated with the aether is > > based on motion and mass per volume. Motion being the pressure > > associated with momentum or acceleration and gravity being the pressure > > associated with the aether displaced by massive objects.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Whatever floats your boat! > > But of course it is not true. > > Mitch Raemsch The aether is displaced by matter. The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure the aether exerts towards the matter. The pressure associated with the aether displaced by massive objects is gravity. A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The observed behaviors in a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule are due to the associated aether displacement wave entering and exiting the available slits while the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit. The observed behaviors in any double slit, 'delayed choice', or 'quantum eraser' experiment are due to the physical wave in the aether propagating the available paths and the 'particle' traveling a single path. In the image on the right here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experimen t There are physical waves in the aether traveling both the blue and red paths, while a photon 'particle' travels the blue or red path. Where the blue and red paths are combined in the image, the physical waves in the aether create interference which alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels. An atomic clock 'ticks' based upon the aether pressure it exists in. The speed of a GPS satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth "causing the GPS clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". Combining the aether pressure associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves in the aether and the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground." (quoted text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS). 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
From: Sam Wormley on 24 Feb 2010 18:41 On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)×10-31 kg > Mass of photon: 0 Photon momentum p = hν/c = h/λ
From: mpc755 on 24 Feb 2010 18:50
In article <hm4d4n$e4t$1(a)pcls4.std.com>, moroney(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com says... > > mpc755 <mpc755(a)gmail.com> writes: > > >On Feb 24, 3:16 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) > >wrote: > >> > >> Energy of photon = 511 kEv. (each of two) > >> 511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg > >> > >> E = mc². > >> > >> Idiot. > > >The mass still exists in nature after an electron is 'annihilated'. > >The matter which was the mass still exists, as aether. > > No need for any word "aether" here. Mass and energy are introconvertable, 'Mass and energy are introconvertable' is not a physical description of what occurs in nature in order for energy to be created. > according to the famous e = mc², as long as certain other conservation > rules are followed. The total mass-energy of a reaction is conserved, > for example the e+e- annihilation, the "before" mass is 1.022 MeV (particle > physicists usually simplify things by measuring mass using energy units) > and "after" is two 511 kEv photons with total energy 1.022 MeV. > > >The mistake you are making above is you are directly equating energy > >with mass: > > >511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg > > No mistake. Every experiment shows the total mass-energy of a reaction > is conserved. Prove this wrong and go collect a Nobel Prize. > 'Total mass-energy of a reaction is conserved' is not a physical explanation of what occurs in nature. What is occurring in nature is matter transitions to aether. Matter physically increases in volume when it transitions to aether. The physical effect matter transitioning to aether has on the surrounding matter and aether is energy. > >The step you are missing is what physically occurs in nature in order > >for there to be energy. In order to represent what is occurring > >physically in nature it is better described as the mass of the > >electron, 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg, expands in three dimensional space > >as it transitions from matter to aether. The physical effects this > >increase in volume has on the surrounding matter and aether is 511 > >kEv /c² of energy. > > Meaningless word salad. |