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From: mpc755 on 25 Feb 2010 11:34 On Feb 25, 11:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 5:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 6:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)Ã10-31 kg > > > > Mass of photon: 0 > > > >   Photon momentum > > >    p = hν/c = h/λ > > > Photon momentum, yes. But what happened to the mass associated with > > the electron? It isn't 'lost'. It doesn't vanish or disappear. The > > mass still exists as aether. The photon has momentum because of the > > expansion matter transitioning has on the surrounding aether and > > matter. The transition of matter to aether creates directed/pointed > > waves in the aether which when detected collapse into a quantum of > > aether. The quanta of aether detected are the photons. > > Light does not disappear when it is absorbed. The light still exists > as pixies. Pixies are invisible, but the fact that light is conserved > is the evidence that pixies exist. This is a better description of > nature than the absurd nonsense that light is absorbed and ceases to > exist, or is emitted and created from nothing. My preferred concept of light is as a wave which when detected collapses into a quanta of aether. The quanta of aether still exists after detection.
From: PD on 25 Feb 2010 11:40 On Feb 25, 10:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 11:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 5:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 24, 6:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)Ã10-31 kg > > > > > Mass of photon: 0 > > > > >   Photon momentum > > > >    p = hν/c = h/λ > > > > Photon momentum, yes. But what happened to the mass associated with > > > the electron? It isn't 'lost'. It doesn't vanish or disappear. The > > > mass still exists as aether. The photon has momentum because of the > > > expansion matter transitioning has on the surrounding aether and > > > matter. The transition of matter to aether creates directed/pointed > > > waves in the aether which when detected collapse into a quantum of > > > aether. The quanta of aether detected are the photons. > > > Light does not disappear when it is absorbed. The light still exists > > as pixies. Pixies are invisible, but the fact that light is conserved > > is the evidence that pixies exist. This is a better description of > > nature than the absurd nonsense that light is absorbed and ceases to > > exist, or is emitted and created from nothing. > > My preferred concept of light is as a wave which when detected > collapses into a quanta of aether. The quanta of aether still exists > after detection. Yes, I know. You prefer crazy, stupid stuff. That's why I mentioned pixies. Other people prefer pixies, but their arguments are just as good as yours.
From: mpc755 on 25 Feb 2010 11:44 On Feb 25, 11:40 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 10:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 11:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 24, 5:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 6:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)Ã10-31 kg > > > > > > Mass of photon: 0 > > > > > >   Photon momentum > > > > >    p = hν/c = h/λ > > > > > Photon momentum, yes. But what happened to the mass associated with > > > > the electron? It isn't 'lost'. It doesn't vanish or disappear. The > > > > mass still exists as aether. The photon has momentum because of the > > > > expansion matter transitioning has on the surrounding aether and > > > > matter. The transition of matter to aether creates directed/pointed > > > > waves in the aether which when detected collapse into a quantum of > > > > aether. The quanta of aether detected are the photons. > > > > Light does not disappear when it is absorbed. The light still exists > > > as pixies. Pixies are invisible, but the fact that light is conserved > > > is the evidence that pixies exist. This is a better description of > > > nature than the absurd nonsense that light is absorbed and ceases to > > > exist, or is emitted and created from nothing. > > > My preferred concept of light is as a wave which when detected > > collapses into a quanta of aether. The quanta of aether still exists > > after detection. > > Yes, I know. You prefer crazy, stupid stuff. That's why I mentioned > pixies. Other people prefer pixies, but their arguments are just as > good as yours. Matter and aether are different states of mather. In terms of E=mc^2 it is the mather transitioning from matter to aether and the expansion in volume associated with the mather which is energy. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. The energy given off in nuclear fission and fusion reactions is the effect matter transitioning to aether has on the matter and aether in neighboring places. The mass still exists in nature after an electron is 'annihilated'. The matter which was the mass still exists, as aether. The mistake is directly equating energy with mass and thinking mass 'converts' to energy in nature: 511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg What occurs physically in nature is more correctly described as the matter which is the mass of the electron, 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg, expands in three dimensional space as it transitions from matter to aether. The physical effects this increase in volume has on the surrounding matter and aether is 511 kEv /c² of energy.
From: PD on 25 Feb 2010 12:01 On Feb 25, 10:44 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 11:40 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 10:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 11:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 5:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 24, 6:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)Ã10-31 kg > > > > > > > Mass of photon: 0 > > > > > > >   Photon momentum > > > > > >    p = hν/c = h/λ > > > > > > Photon momentum, yes. But what happened to the mass associated with > > > > > the electron? It isn't 'lost'. It doesn't vanish or disappear. The > > > > > mass still exists as aether. The photon has momentum because of the > > > > > expansion matter transitioning has on the surrounding aether and > > > > > matter. The transition of matter to aether creates directed/pointed > > > > > waves in the aether which when detected collapse into a quantum of > > > > > aether. The quanta of aether detected are the photons. > > > > > Light does not disappear when it is absorbed. The light still exists > > > > as pixies. Pixies are invisible, but the fact that light is conserved > > > > is the evidence that pixies exist. This is a better description of > > > > nature than the absurd nonsense that light is absorbed and ceases to > > > > exist, or is emitted and created from nothing. > > > > My preferred concept of light is as a wave which when detected > > > collapses into a quanta of aether. The quanta of aether still exists > > > after detection. > > > Yes, I know. You prefer crazy, stupid stuff. That's why I mentioned > > pixies. Other people prefer pixies, but their arguments are just as > > good as yours. Aaaaaaand back to passive-aggressive, knee-jerk response, right on cue. Like a puppet on strings. You can't help yourself. > > Matter and aether are different states of mather. In terms of E=mc^2 > it is the mather transitioning from matter to aether and the expansion > in volume associated with the mather which is energy. > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. The energy given off in nuclear fission and > fusion reactions is the effect matter transitioning to aether has on > the matter and aether in neighboring places. > > The mass still exists in nature after an electron is 'annihilated'. > The matter which was the mass still exists, as aether. > > The mistake is directly equating energy with mass and thinking mass > 'converts' to energy in nature: > > 511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg > > What occurs physically in nature is more correctly described as the > matter which is the mass of the electron, 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg, > expands in three dimensional space as it transitions from matter to > aether. The physical effects this increase in volume has on the > surrounding matter and aether is 511 kEv /c² of energy.
From: mpc755 on 25 Feb 2010 12:07
On Feb 25, 12:01 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 10:44 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 11:40 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 25, 10:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 25, 11:25 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 24, 5:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 6:41 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2/24/10 11:15 AM, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mass of electron: 9.10938215(45)Ã10-31 kg > > > > > > > > Mass of photon: 0 > > > > > > > >   Photon momentum > > > > > > >    p = hν/c = h/λ > > > > > > > Photon momentum, yes. But what happened to the mass associated with > > > > > > the electron? It isn't 'lost'. It doesn't vanish or disappear. The > > > > > > mass still exists as aether. The photon has momentum because of the > > > > > > expansion matter transitioning has on the surrounding aether and > > > > > > matter. The transition of matter to aether creates directed/pointed > > > > > > waves in the aether which when detected collapse into a quantum of > > > > > > aether. The quanta of aether detected are the photons. > > > > > > Light does not disappear when it is absorbed. The light still exists > > > > > as pixies. Pixies are invisible, but the fact that light is conserved > > > > > is the evidence that pixies exist. This is a better description of > > > > > nature than the absurd nonsense that light is absorbed and ceases to > > > > > exist, or is emitted and created from nothing. > > > > > My preferred concept of light is as a wave which when detected > > > > collapses into a quanta of aether. The quanta of aether still exists > > > > after detection. > > > > Yes, I know. You prefer crazy, stupid stuff. That's why I mentioned > > > pixies. Other people prefer pixies, but their arguments are just as > > > good as yours. > > Aaaaaaand back to passive-aggressive, knee-jerk response, right on > cue. Like a puppet on strings. You can't help yourself. > Matter and aether are different states of mather. In terms of E=mc^2 it is the mather transitioning from matter to aether and the expansion in volume associated with the mather which is energy. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. The energy given off in nuclear fission and fusion reactions is the effect matter transitioning to aether has on the matter and aether in neighboring places. The mass still exists in nature after an electron is 'annihilated'. The matter which was the mass still exists, as aether. The mistake is directly equating energy with mass and thinking mass 'converts' to energy in nature: 511 kEv /c² = 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg What occurs physically in nature is more correctly described as the matter which is the mass of the electron, 9.10938215(45)*10-31 kg, expands in three dimensional space as it transitions from matter to aether. The physical effects this increase in volume has on the surrounding matter and aether is 511 kEv /c² of energy. |