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From: Woody on 16 Mar 2010 06:50 Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > In article <807oofFjthU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > >A poster on another site pointed out that the iPad appears to fall foul > >of the 'Waste Batteries and Accumulators Regulations 2009' which require > >that devices with built in batteries and sold in the UK since Jan 09 be > >capable of being dismantled and the batteries removed. The manufacturer > >is obliged to provide instructions on how to do this. > > > >Providing a battery change service - at whatever price - does not meet > >the requirements of the legislation. > > I can't find such a requirement, but I haven't read the whole thing > properly. > > But assuming the assertion is correct, it doesn't require batteries to > be replacable. The instructions for my electric toothbrush specify > how to remove the battery for recycling, but the procedure destroys > the toothbrush - they actually provide a device to break it. I would assume they would have already checked that. My phone was sold in the uK since jan 09 and it doesn't have removeable batteries. -- Woody
From: Bruce Horrocks on 16 Mar 2010 17:47 On 16/03/2010 10:50, Woody wrote: > Richard Tobin<richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > >> In article<807oofFjthU1(a)mid.individual.net>, >> Bruce Horrocks<07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: >>> A poster on another site pointed out that the iPad appears to fall foul >>> of the 'Waste Batteries and Accumulators Regulations 2009' which require >>> that devices with built in batteries and sold in the UK since Jan 09 be >>> capable of being dismantled and the batteries removed. The manufacturer >>> is obliged to provide instructions on how to do this. >>> >>> Providing a battery change service - at whatever price - does not meet >>> the requirements of the legislation. >> >> I can't find such a requirement, but I haven't read the whole thing >> properly. Lower half of page 13 of the guidelines here refers to the relevant sections. http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file47433.pdf >> >> But assuming the assertion is correct, it doesn't require batteries to >> be replacable. The instructions for my electric toothbrush specify >> how to remove the battery for recycling, but the procedure destroys >> the toothbrush - they actually provide a device to break it. > > I would assume they would have already checked that. My phone was sold > in the uK since jan 09 and it doesn't have removeable batteries. > The legislation only covers devices first sold since Jan 10. So the iPhone etc is exempt through having been on sale earlier. -- Bruce Horrocks Surrey England (bruce at scorecrow dot com)
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Mar 2010 18:30 Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > Lower half of page 13 of the guidelines here refers to the relevant > sections. > http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file47433.pdf (i) no person shall place on the market any appliance designed in such a way that a waste battery cannot be readily removed from it; and (ii) shall ensure that that appliance into which a battery is or may be incorporated with a battery is accompanied by instructions showing how the battery can be removed safely and, where appropriate, informing the end-user of the type of battery incorporated. So they don't have to be changeable, but user-removable. That will certainly apply to the iPad, and it's EU-wide, so the market is big enough that Apple will have to comply with it even if there's no equivalent US regulation (maybe there is?) -- Peter
From: Woody on 16 Mar 2010 19:53 On 16/03/2010 22:30, Peter Ceresole wrote: > Bruce Horrocks<07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote: > >> Lower half of page 13 of the guidelines here refers to the relevant >> sections. >> http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file47433.pdf > > (i) > no person shall place on the market any appliance designed in such a way > that a waste battery cannot be readily removed from it; and > (ii) > shall ensure that that appliance into which a battery is or may be > incorporated with a battery is accompanied by instructions showing how > the battery can be removed safely and, where appropriate, informing the > end-user of the type of battery incorporated. > > So they don't have to be changeable, but user-removable. That will > certainly apply to the iPad, and it's EU-wide, so the market is big > enough that Apple will have to comply with it even if there's no > equivalent US regulation (maybe there is?) You would think so, but surely they would already know that, unless they plan to release it and not worry about what the EU thinks? -- Woody
From: Peter Ceresole on 16 Mar 2010 19:59
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > You would think so, but surely they would already know that, unless they > plan to release it and not worry about what the EU thinks? I don't think they can ignore the regulation- it would lose them the entire legit European market, which they wouldn't want to afford. There will probably br some destructive method to remove the battery, and they'll include the instructions with the Pad. That should cover them. But who knows; they may actually see sense... -- Peter |