From: Bruce Horrocks on
On 17/03/2010 06:17, Chris Ridd wrote:
> On 2010-03-16 22:30:53 +0000, Peter Ceresole said:
>
>> Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lower half of page 13 of the guidelines here refers to the relevant
>>> sections.
>>> http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file47433.pdf
[snip]
> Not wanting to sound like a lawyer, but nowhere does that text indicate
> the battery has to be *user* removable. Instructions describing sending
> it back to the mothership would seem to address the 2nd part of these
> guidelines, and I bet that Apple is able to readily remove a battery
> from an iPad...
>
> Still, these are just the guidelines and not the actual regulations
> themselves. Maybe the regulations are more precisely worded.

From page 14 of the guidelines:
> Q&A on the Removal of Waste Batteries and Accumulators from
> Appliances Requirements of the Regulations
>
> What does "batteries and accumulators can be readily removed" mean?
>
> � This means that that consumers or professionals (e.g. appliance service
> centres, watch menders, camera shops, waste management facilities)
> should be able to remove batteries from appliances. The product must be
> accompanied with instructions explaining how the batteries can be readily
> and safely removed. They should also specify who, in the view of the
> manufacturer, the best person to safely remove the battery is.

The key phrase here is '*consumers* or professionals'. I suppose we can
have an argument as to whether the default meaning of the word 'or' in
English law is inclusive or exclusive. ;-)

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From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Ceresole wrote:
> > > > Woody<usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You would think so, but surely they would already know that, unless
> > > >> they plan to release it and not worry about what the EU thinks?
> > > >
> > > > I don't think they can ignore the regulation- it would lose them the
> > > > entire legit European market, which they wouldn't want to afford.
> > >
> > > Don't they have big enough cash reserves to buy europe now?
> >
> > Don't be silly.
> >
> > Last thing I heard, Germany was *still* the biggest exporter in the
> > world, by value.
>
> Sorry, i forgot to add <joke> tags for you.

<puzzled>

Since the usual signs of humour cannot be detected via pure text
communications, it is conventional to add an emoticon to help the reader
pick up on intended jokes.

The thing about you, Woody, is that you make really stupidly wrong
statements perfectly seriously, so it's hard to tell when you're joking
in the manner above.

Because of your stupid wrongness at other times, you do need to flag up
jokes that are jokes because of their stupid wrongness.

Rowland.

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From: David Kennedy on
Steve Firth wrote:
>
> Umm well it was based on the fact that the CIA factbook shows that China
> exports more than any other country in the world. Germany in second
> place. UK in ninth, behind France and Italy.

Got to be wrong. If we don't make anything then what are we supposed to
be exporting?

Got you there!

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From: Gwynne Harper on
David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote:

> Got to be wrong. If we don't make anything then what are we supposed to
> be exporting?

Several large chunks of Longbridge and a chocolate company.


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From: zoara on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
> > Lower half of page 13 of the guidelines here refers to the relevant
> > sections.
> > http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file47433.pdf
>
> (i)
> no person shall place on the market any appliance designed in such a
> way
> that a waste battery cannot be readily removed from it; and
> (ii)
> shall ensure that that appliance into which a battery is or may be
> incorporated with a battery is accompanied by instructions showing how
> the battery can be removed safely and, where appropriate, informing
> the
> end-user of the type of battery incorporated.

I wonder whether a picture of said device, a big rock, and an arrow
would be adequate?

-z-


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