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From: nospam on 9 Feb 2010 14:33 In article <michelle-FFF582.12210209022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > Except that he's wrong about the iPhone not including a USB power adaptor: and that one is 5 watts.
From: Larry Gusaas on 9 Feb 2010 15:04 On 2010/02/09 12:26 PM Doc O'Leary wrote: > Look, I'll even help you out because I'm such a standup guy: On the > iPad spec page Apple list the 10W USB Power Adapter as included. The > smaller touch devices only included a dock connector, so clearly Apple > envisions some significantly more detached usage for the iPad. > My cell phone has an USB Power Adaptor. It does not require having a computer in order to use it. There are no indications on the iPad specs that you will not be able to use it without a computer. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese
From: Doc O'Leary on 10 Feb 2010 13:10 In article <090220101054263897%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-EC5CBF.12261709022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > There is no "right" to be had here. Nothing will be "right" until Apple > > either makes a statement or ships a product. All we can do as > > *reasonable* people is show why we think what we think. I have shown > > what evidence leads me to think a computer will be necessary. You have > > not shown any evidence to support your thinking that a computer will not > > be necessary. > > since a computer is not necessary for any shipping ipod, iphone or ipod > touch, other than a one time setup, Yes, yes . . . except for when it is *necessary* to use a computer to manage an Apple device, a computer is totally unnecessary! > it's reasonable to conclude that > the ipad will be the same. Thank you for supporting my point. > furthermore, the iphone is normally activated in a store and content > can be added over the air, completely eliminating any need for a > computer. So long as you neglect to mention the things you need a computer for. > > Look, I'll even help you out because I'm such a standup guy: On the > > iPad spec page Apple list the 10W USB Power Adapter as included. The > > smaller touch devices only included a dock connector, so clearly Apple > > envisions some significantly more detached usage for the iPad. > > or that the battery is bigger and 2.5 watts from a usb port is > insufficient. Please provide evidence to support your claim. I don't see where Apple directly states the power draw is more than USB can supply. If anything, the indication is that it is sufficient ("25-watt-hour" / "Up to 10 hours" = 2.5W). Docked in a low-power mode (e.g., digital photo slide show) should draw less. Certainly you could charge the battery via USB with the iPad off, too. More to the point, I can't see Apple forcing users into an either/or choice between docking with the computer and plugging into the wall to get power. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 10 Feb 2010 13:17 In article <michelle-FFF582.12210209022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <090220101054263897%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, > nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > > Look, I'll even help you out because I'm such a standup guy: On the > > > iPad spec page Apple list the 10W USB Power Adapter as included. The > > > smaller touch devices only included a dock connector, so clearly Apple > > > envisions some significantly more detached usage for the iPad. > > > > or that the battery is bigger and 2.5 watts from a usb port is > > insufficient. > > Except that he's wrong about the iPhone not including a USB power adaptor: > > In the box > iPhone 3GS > Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic > Dock Connector to USB Cable > USB Power Adapter > Documentation > SIM eject tool I stand corrected. I did only check out the iPod touch specs, since that is the touch device I think more closely matches the iPad. Still, I do consider it evidence, including with the iPhone, of how autonomous Apple views the device in question. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 10 Feb 2010 13:29
In article <hksf3t$umo$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2010/02/09 12:26 PM Doc O'Leary wrote: > > Look, I'll even help you out because I'm such a standup guy: On the > > iPad spec page Apple list the 10W USB Power Adapter as included. The > > smaller touch devices only included a dock connector, so clearly Apple > > envisions some significantly more detached usage for the iPad. > > > > My cell phone has an USB Power Adaptor. It does not require having a > computer in order to use it. There are no indications on the iPad specs > that you will not be able to use it without a computer. Did you even read anything I wrote before? You can't prove a negative. There are an *infinite* number of things that the iPad specs don't indicate. Stick with what they do indicate. And, for the last time, it is downright stupid to yammer on about how a *mobile* device doesn't require a computer to *use* it. Of course it doesn't; it wouldn't be much of a mobile device if it did! That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not the unit was designed to be fully functional as a standalone unit. That includes system update/restore, which I believe still requires a computer for the iPhone. Correct me if I'm wrong. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too. |