From: nospam on 8 Feb 2010 16:05 In article <michelle-442158.12310708022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > The only "evidence" you have listed is that a computer is necessary for the > iPods and iPhones; in other words, "That's the way it's been done before." other than initial activation (which can be done in a store), there is no need for a computer in order to use an ipod or iphone. although it might be easier to load it up with music and movies from a computer than buying it on the device itself, a computer is not *required* to do that. it's also possible that the user doesn't care about either of those, and wants it just for the apps, which also can be downloaded on the device itself. even the older ipods do not require a computer, other than a one time setup. after that, they don't need anything but a charging cable.
From: Charles on 8 Feb 2010 16:15 In article <080220101305464692%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > other than initial activation (which can be done in a store), there is > no need for a computer in order to use an ipod or iphone. You are right about using it but you also would need a computer to install operating system and security updates. Also to back up and restore. I have had to restore my iphone twice. -- Charles
From: nospam on 8 Feb 2010 16:24 In article <080220101615393313%fort514(a)mac.com>, Charles <fort514(a)mac.com> wrote: > > other than initial activation (which can be done in a store), there is > > no need for a computer in order to use an ipod or iphone. > > You are right about using it but you also would need a computer to > install operating system and security updates. although it's nice to be up to date, it's not *required*. > Also to back up and > restore. I have had to restore my iphone twice. backing up is also nice, but optional. a lot of people don't bother doing it with their desktop computer, why is an ipod any different? and what did you do that required it to be restored??
From: Charles on 8 Feb 2010 16:34 In article <080220101324121057%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > and what did you do that required it to be restored?? I did not do anything to it. The first time I was updating to an updated version of the OS. It failed and hosed the phone. The second time it got stuck on a backup. After about nine hours of being stalled I called Apple for support. After they walked me through a bunch of that had no effect they had me do a restore. -- Charles
From: nospam on 8 Feb 2010 16:42
In article <080220101634582907%fort514(a)mac.com>, Charles <fort514(a)mac.com> wrote: > > and what did you do that required it to be restored?? > > I did not do anything to it. The first time I was updating to an > updated version of the OS. It failed and hosed the phone. The second > time it got stuck on a backup. After about nine hours of being stalled > I called Apple for support. After they walked me through a bunch of > that had no effect they had me do a restore. both instances you were using a computer. that would be an issue for someone who wasn't using it with a computer. |