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From: Doc O'Leary on 10 Feb 2010 13:41 In article <michelle-0852E2.11284509022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-64C2D7.12072409022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > > > There is plenty of room to speculate on what that all means, but > > > > there is no indication whatsoever from Apple that it means you won't > > > > need a computer to use an iPad. You might *like* for that to be the > > > > case, even *I* find the prospect interesting, but nothing really > > > > points to it. Why is it so hard to admit that? > > > > > > YOU STILL HAVE NOT SHOWN US A SINGLE USE OF THE iPad THAT WOULD > > > REQUIRE A COMPUTER!!!! > > > > No need to scream. > > Yes, there was, because you keep ignoring it. I don't ignore it. I addressed it long ago, and I have grown tired of repeating myself because you can't remember why you're wrong and won't change your mind. The world is much nicer if you decide to be a rational, reasonable human being; give it a try. Once again: the burden is not on me to show how the laws of physics must be violated to use the iPad without a computer. The burden of proof *is* on you to show evidence that supports a computer not being necessary. I have show the things I've seen that support my case, and you continue to conveniently ignore them in favor of screaming. > > It's not about how you want to use it, it's about > > following the evidence that Apple provides at this point. > > It is exactly about how you use it. If you can do with it what you want to > do with it without the use of a computer, then you do not need a computer > to go with it. I want it to hold down papers on my desk, therefore . . . by your tortured logic and in your annoying writing style . . . AN IPAD DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE ELECTRICITY TO OPERATE! I said I was done with you before, but then I saw a possible spark of logic, but now I'm left with the firm conviction that you'll never *start* with the evidence before coming to a conclusion or even *revisit* the evidence to change your mind. I have been well trolled; congratulations. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: nospam on 10 Feb 2010 15:17 In article <droleary.usenet-05DD2A.12104210022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > since a computer is not necessary for any shipping ipod, iphone or ipod > > touch, other than a one time setup, > > Yes, yes . . . except for when it is *necessary* to use a computer to > manage an Apple device, a computer is totally unnecessary! that's like saying an auto mechanic is required to use a car because it might need a repair once in a while. the ipod family does *not* require anything to be used, other than a one time setup. having a computer certainly makes it more useful and most people do use it with one but that's not the same as requiring it. > > it's reasonable to conclude that > > the ipad will be the same. > > Thank you for supporting my point. i don't. > > > Look, I'll even help you out because I'm such a standup guy: On the > > > iPad spec page Apple list the 10W USB Power Adapter as included. The > > > smaller touch devices only included a dock connector, so clearly Apple > > > envisions some significantly more detached usage for the iPad. > > > > or that the battery is bigger and 2.5 watts from a usb port is > > insufficient. > > Please provide evidence to support your claim. I don't see where Apple > directly states the power draw is more than USB can supply. why provide a 10 watt adapter if it is only going to use 2.5 watts? the iphone adapter is 5 watts and charges faster on the adapter than off usb.
From: Matthew Russotto on 10 Feb 2010 19:38 In article <080220101522446127%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >In article <michelle-871271.15415308022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, >Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >> > You are right about using it but you also would need a computer to >> > install operating system and security updates. Also to back up and >> > restore. I have had to restore my iphone twice. >> >> It might be possible to install updates on the iPad directly over the WiFi >> connection. > >that's *very* unlikely. the potential to brick it is very high if an >update is done wirelessly, especially with updates weighing in at >200-300 meg (for the ipod, and the ipad is probably similar, if not >bigger). Updates can be done safely via wireless provided they are cached on the device rather than being installed as they are downloaded. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Wes Groleau on 11 Feb 2010 00:31 nospam wrote: > <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> For that matter, I did not need any kind of "activation" >> to start using my iPod. > > regular ipods don't. ipod touch & iphone (and presumably the ipad) do. Sigh. OK, here's my clarification: I did not need any kind of "activation" to start using my eight Gig iPod touch. -- Wes Groleau Cage Fights at South Oak Cliff High http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1458
From: Wes Groleau on 11 Feb 2010 00:36
nospam wrote: > the ipod family does *not* require anything to be used, other than a > one time setup. What is your definition of setup? As far as I can remember, I did a lot on my iPod touch before the first time I decided to hook it to a computer. -- Wes Groleau Miss Universe had “lots of fun” in Guantanamo http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1537 |