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From: Doc O'Leary on 1 Feb 2010 13:39 In article <michelle-68BF50.15565731012010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article > <1963105894286664259.540562jim_glidewell-yahoo.com(a)eternal-september.org>, > Jim Glidewell <jim_glidewell(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I thinks it's pretty clear that the iPad *will* require syncing at the > > product launch. > > Why? Because Apple includes the cable for it. Because you can't point to anything from Apple even hinting at the possibility that it'll work without a computer. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 1 Feb 2010 13:48 In article <sehix-D09011.14081531012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-9CE185.11580731012010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > In article <sehix-B069DD.14573930012010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, > > Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > > > > > In article <droleary.usenet-B27E72.12391230012010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > > > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > And some might issue it in a corporate environment as a thin client. > > > > There are plenty of ways I could *imagine* it being put to use, but > > > > let's stick with common expectations, and all signs point to Apple > > > > expecting there to be a computer to sync with. > > > > > > Granted. But it's not *mandated*. Some few luddite-ish types might > > > choose to forego that capability, and they could do it. > > > > Could they? I don't know anyone who yet has the unboxing experience to > > say it doesn't require syncing. If you have evidence to the contrary, > > please say so. Otherwise, you're engaged in pure speculation (didn't we > > get enough of that from the rumor mills prior to the announcement?). > > > > > I'm under no illusions that it would be common practice, but it would be > > > possible. > > > > *Might* be possible. The specs page seems to list both Mac and Windows > > system requirements, though. I see no indication from Apple that it was > > designed to work as a completely standalone unit. > > "Possible" isn't the same thing as "recommended" or "expected", is it? Please don't dance around words. Either you *know* the details of how an iPad operates or you don't. If you do, state what *is* the case so that we can stop with the possible/expected/recommended speculation. If you don't, I highly recommend you not rush out and buy an iPad under the assumption that you can just kick your Mac or PC to the curb. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 2 Feb 2010 13:19 In article <michelle-EC04C4.11383101022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-9D3FA1.12192501022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > That makes about as much sense as saying a car doesn't *need* gas > > because you only have to fill it up if you want to drive more than 200 > > miles. Like I said, it's possible to *rarely* connect these kinds of > > devices to computers. That doesn't change the fact that it seems like > > Apple *has* designed them with the intention of them being connected to > > a computer at some point. > > Jobs said that you can sign up for AT&T's data plan right from the iPad, > and do not need a computer to do that. And? So it supports doing one thing without needing a computer. Hell, it supports *tons* of things without needing a computer; that's the whole point of something like an iPad! That is not the issue at hand. > I can easily see using one without ever having to connect it to a computer, > unless software upgrades can be done only via a computer, as with the > iPhone. You can buy or rent movies, buy TV shows, buy music, get podcasts, > and buy apps directly with it, and not have to synch that with a computer. > You can enter contacts and calendar items without a computer. And you can > sync it with MobileMe if you want to store a backup. Yes, I too can *see* many possible uses for such a device. But going on the evidence of past devices, I see no reason to believe that Apple has made the iPad not need a computer. Until they state something along those line, we have no reason to believe that an iPad will work any differently. > So at this point it appears that you won't need to connect it to a computer. No hard data exists to support that statement. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 2 Feb 2010 13:26 In article <michelle-23122B.12405601022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-FBA4CA.12483601022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > Please don't dance around words. Either you *know* the details of how > > an iPad operates or you don't. If you do, state what *is* the case so > > that we can stop with the possible/expected/recommended speculation. If > > you don't, I highly recommend you not rush out and buy an iPad under the > > assumption that you can just kick your Mac or PC to the curb. > > There is a big difference between needing (or not) to synch it with a > computer (which is what we have been discussing) and replacing a computer > with it (which is what it appears that you're trying to change the subject > to). I'm not trying to change the subject. It started off fuzzy from the beginning due to wild speculation. I'll state flat-out that I don't believe *any* computer is perfect for every person, so I would never claim that an iPad will unilaterally replace a different computer. So the question remains on whether or not an iPad can be used without ever connecting it to a Mac or PC. You claim that will be the case, but offer no evidence, and I maintain that all prior evidence from Apple on similar devices points to the fact that you're probably going to need access to a computer of some kind in addition to having the iPad. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too.
From: Doc O'Leary on 2 Feb 2010 13:32
In article <michelle-7217F5.12425801022010(a)nothing.attdns.com>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <droleary.usenet-19F7E4.12395801022010(a)news.twtelecom.net>, > Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet(a)1q2010.subsume.com> wrote: > > > > > I thinks it's pretty clear that the iPad *will* require syncing at > > > > the product launch. > > > > > > Why? > > > > Because Apple includes the cable for it. Because you can't point to > > anything from Apple even hinting at the possibility that it'll work > > without a computer. > > And you can't point to anything from Apple that says it requires a computer. > > Just because Apple provides the cable doesn't mean that it is required. Occam's Razor puts the burden of proof on you. There are multiple lines of evidence that point towards needing a computer to go along with an iPad. Do you even have *one* statement from Apple indication "no computer required"? If not, please stop acting like you are an iPad expert. -- My personal UDP list: 127.0.0.1, localhost, googlegroups.com, ono.com, and probably your server, too. |