From: Woody on
Bella Jones <me9(a)privacy.net> wrote:

> David Empson <dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> > Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone is saying 'Don't Buy!!!!', but
> > > I don't see anything especially revelatory beyond being a long way into
> > > the product/version cycle. Would you buy now, or wait?
> >
> > A reasonable assumption is that Apple will release a new model of iPhone
> > around the June to July timeframe, since that's what they have done for
> > the last three years.
> >
> > On that basis, if you buy an iPhone 3GS now, it will be superseded in
> > about four months. Do you want to wait that long for unknown
> > improvements? If not, buy it now.
>
> Sod it. I just ordered one on monthly contract from O2. I have terrible
> timing where mobile tech is concerned. Sod it. I can't face the horror
> or asking T-Mobile for my PAC code again.

Oh well done, I am sure you will find it great.

Do you still have an outstanding pac number? I never had a problem with
getting the pac code. when I did it last getting my iPhone set up, 3
weren't too bad. They obviously had to go through the 'you do realise
that the iPhone is a very bad machine, and they give you diseases and
the contract is rubbish and...' and basically the best way to get
through that bit is just say 'yes, but I already have it, yes but I
already have it' to each question, then you get your pac code.


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From: Woody on
Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On 16/02/2010 10:48, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:07:57 GMT, Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Having just got back from hols with an iPhone holder in our party, I've
> >> decided the time has come. Couple of questions:
> >>
> >> I figure PAYG is cheaper by about �200 for me over the two years of a
> >> contract, including the cost of year 2 wireless. Is this �200 likely to
> >> result in hassle/loss of features?
> >
> > No, although I *think* that currently only O2-on-contract has working
> > Visual Voicemail. Which I've never missed, and certainly isn't worth
> > �200.
> >
>
> Thanks - I don't know what that is, so it's hardly a priority!

I have it, never used it.


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From: Jim on
On 2010-02-16, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Do you still have an outstanding pac number? I never had a problem with
> getting the pac code. when I did it last getting my iPhone set up, 3
> weren't too bad. They obviously had to go through the 'you do realise
> that the iPhone is a very bad machine, and they give you diseases and
> the contract is rubbish and...' and basically the best way to get
> through that bit is just say 'yes, but I already have it, yes but I
> already have it' to each question, then you get your pac code.

In SWMBO's case T-Mobile gave in quite easily. They went through a few
token questions, culminating in "Would you consider a Blackberry", to which
SWMBO replied
"HAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAHOOOOOOOOHOOOOHEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"

They gave her the PAC code quite quickly after that.

Jim
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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:59:06 GMT, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On 16/02/2010 10:15, Jim wrote:
>> On 2010-02-16, Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I figure PAYG is cheaper by about �200 for me over the two years of a
>>> contract, including the cost of year 2 wireless. Is this �200 likely to
>>> result in hassle/loss of features?
>>
>> I can't speak for how well the contract vs. PAYG works out for you
>> financially (in my case I make about 2 calls a month, and that's *up* from my
>> previous usage) but so far as I'm aware the only feature you _don't_ get on
>> PAYG is Visual Voicemail. You'll get free access to The Cloud and BT
>> OpenZone WiFi spots for 12 months (you might have to ask for that, can't
>> remember).
>>
>
>OK, thanks - sounds similar to my usage.
>
>Something I don't get is the wifi - I thought that worked over the
>mobile phone signal, but on reading it seems to be only cloud/BT
>hotspots.

No, it's normal wifi, so you can connect to any open wifi hub, or
locked ones you know the passcode for. Your iPhone supplier may have
agreements in place that allow you to use The Cloud/BT hotspots
included in the price, rather than paying separately.

If there's a wifi signal in range when you start using data, you get a
popup offering connections. When you're not in wifi range you
automatically get 3G/EDGE/GPRS connection through the mobile phone
network.

These are two different networking facilities (different hardware,
different IPs and so on), but the handoffs are clean enough so it
feels like you get a near-ubiquitous data feed.

>Is this what 'roaming data not included' means? I was hoping I
>could use the internet on a train, for example.

"Roaming" doesn't mean "while moving around", it's an industry term
that means "using a carrier not your own" and generally only comes up
when you're in Foreign Parts. It includes both voice and data, and for
either you will be charged mercilessly. There's a switch in the iPhone
settings to disallow data use when roaming.

A fair number of trains have wifi now, by the way. Trying to use
mobile-carrier data on the train is a glitchy PITA.

Cheers - Jaimie
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From: Flavio Matani on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 16/02/2010 10:48, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:
> > > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:07:57 GMT, Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Having just got back from hols with an iPhone holder in our party, I've
> > >> decided the time has come. Couple of questions:
> > >>
> > >> I figure PAYG is cheaper by about �200 for me over the two years of a
> > >> contract, including the cost of year 2 wireless. Is this �200 likely to
> > >> result in hassle/loss of features?
> > >
> > > No, although I *think* that currently only O2-on-contract has working
> > > Visual Voicemail. Which I've never missed, and certainly isn't worth
> > > �200.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks - I don't know what that is, so it's hardly a priority!
>
> I have it, never used it.

I have it and use it (last time five min. ago) but it is not worth �200.



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