lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
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From: Stephen Powell on 2 Jun 2010 10:10 On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:55:58 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Stephen Powell <zlinuxman(a)wowway.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:06:56 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: >>> >>> Don't you think that lilo will be left in the repos but not available >>> at install time? You could then install lilo post-OS-install or >>> through pre-seeding. >> >> Not without an active upstream maintainer. That's the critical need now. > > I meant to say the Lenny repos (although I am curious to see whether > it will really disappear from the Squeeze repos once Squeeze is > released). If they pull it, they will probably pull it *before* squeeze becomes the current stable release. Once a release becomes the stable release, it's almost impossible to pull a package from it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1507702440.225881.1275487539953.JavaMail.root(a)md01.wow.synacor.com
From: John Hasler on 2 Jun 2010 11:10 Tom H writes: > I meant to say the Lenny repos (although I am curious to see whether > [Lilo] will really disappear from the Squeeze repos once Squeeze is > released). If it has an RC bug at the time of the release it will be removed. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874ohlcy2t.fsf(a)thumper.dhh.gt.org
From: Jon Dowland on 2 Jun 2010 12:10 On 01/06/2010 10:32, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > The reason grub2 is being forced upon us all is the need of the "desktop" > users who want a 20MB kitchen sink kernel and initrd that will support any > piece of hardware on any machine they throw at it. Many sysadmins don't want > or need that, and we're being forced to change our bootloader due to the > perceived needs of others. > > LILO isn't broken and it works well enough for may folks such as myself. We > should have the option of keeping it, as an installable package, until _we_ > feel we need to change to something else. It's as much a philosophical issue > as it is a practical one. There is no legitimate reason LILO can't be left in > the distro as an optional package, just as it is now with Lenny. > A perfectly legitimate reason is that there is one willing to maintain it. Lots of hot air on -user, but nobody prepared to do the work. IMHO the kernel size issue is just the straw that broke the camel's back. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C0681DF.6040908(a)debian.org
From: Jon Dowland on 2 Jun 2010 12:10 On 30/05/2010 14:04, thib wrote: > Like any dist upgrade, squeeze will have release notes with upgrade > instructions and I'm quite confident everything concerning lilo will > be covered. There are probably many upgrade test patterns they'll > have to try, that's true, but I would hope the transition goes > smoothly for most systems. All the smoother with sufficient testing (which is what William was requesting with the OP) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C068101.5010909(a)debian.org
From: Jon Dowland on 2 Jun 2010 12:20
On 24/05/2010 23:44, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > So it would appear boot loaders in general have a lack of interested/committed > developers? Both LILO and GRUB. > > <sarcasm> So instead of just LILO, why didn't the Debian team just throw both > bootloaders out the window and start over with committed devs? </sarcasm> > There would indeed appear to be a manpower problem for grub2 and lilo *within* Debian, but the key issue here is that there is also a manpower problem for lilo *outside* Debian, too. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C0682AF.9030605(a)debian.org |