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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 2 Jun 2010 05:41 Rick Opperman <richocet7725(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote: > In article <1jjf6qr.1f0j7gl1qsn56qN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>, > mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote: > > > Have you noticed that a bunch people have posted here that they're able > > to save after cropping in Preview, on various Mac OS versions from Tiger > > through Snow Leopard? How many have posted to say they can't save after > > cropping? No one but you. > > Since this thread began I have been testing this out on all the Macs I > can and that now is 23. Thats friends Macs, faamily, people I work with, > you name it. It worked on all of them so I have to say that if this is > really a problem with Preview its really pretty rare. Works for me in 10.5.8, just like it did in every previous version of OSX I used. Frankly I'm having a hard time believing Erik can't get Preview to save on any Mac, unless he's been copying the same stuffed up preference file from Mac to Mac. That might happen with .Mac syncing a bad preference file between every system, for example. Or could he be using the same storage device for all the Macs? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
From: Jamie Kahn Genet on 2 Jun 2010 05:51 Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > On 2010-05-30 21:06:16 -0300, Tom Stiller said: > > > In article <4c02f994$0$4809$ba624c82(a)nntp02.dk.telia.net>, > > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > > > >> Tim Streater wrote: > >>> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >>>> Michael Vilain wrote: > >>>>> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >>>>>> Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>>>> Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo > >>>>>>>> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and > >>>>>>>> Preview don't seem to be able to do it > >>>>>>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea Preview can't crop or rotate. It > >>>>>>> can do both. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Have you looked at the Tools menu in Preview?: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> <http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2218/previewtools.png> Preview > >>>>>>can't crop, but sure it can rotate both clockwise and > >>>>>>contra-clockwise + flip horizontal and vertical... Preview -> Tools > >>>>>>menu. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> A simple and yet powerful editing tool could be Torsten Lemke's > >>>>>> GraphicConverter from www.lemkesoft.com. Free demo available. > >>>>> Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5 > >>>>> sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be > >>>>> using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken. > >>>> Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It > >>>> always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and > >>>> now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2. > >>> > >>> I really don't know what you problem is. I've cropped dozens of pics > >>> with preview, and adjusted their colours, sizes, and rotation. > >>> > >>> To crop I just drag a selection on the pic and choose crop from the > >>> Tools menu. What's so difficult about that? > >> > >> Exactly! - But what does that help, when it's impossible to save > >> afterwards? > > > > What happens when you select "Save" or "Save As..." from the file menu > > after cropping the image? > > The problem is, for those of us somewhat new to Mac, we'd never even > look at "file" when still thinking of editing. AFTER having finally > found that, it does make sense but Windows types will be looking for > something in editing or tools or anyplace EXCEPT file. I mentioned in > another post that after seeing so many people say it could be done that > I'd made a copy of the attachment so I could risk ruining it and then > proceeded and FINALLY thought, well, FILE is the ONLY place I haven't > looked and VOILA, it works. ;-) > > The bottom line remains, there are some things which will cause Windows > converts trouble here and there while we adapt to Mac methodology. Okkkkk.... in my copy of WinXP all apps I use have "Save…" and "Save As…" in the File menu. *opens an old copy of Win95 in Virtualisation* Save is still in the file menu there for MS Word and notepad. *Opens a MS-DOS VM and runs WP for DOS* Ok, save is still under File even in a DOS GUI app. I mean where else would it be??? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 2 Jun 2010 18:17 Jolly Roger wrote: > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >> Mike Rosenberg wrote: >>> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >>>> I have deleted the prefs settings... I have copied a fresh version from >>>> my backup system... - I've copied the one from my other 'developer' >>>> system (same ver.) to the main system... - I've taken a copy from my >>>> PowerBook - though not an Intel, but it can fine open... I've even >>>> copied the Tiger version onto the Leopard... - NOTHING helps.:-(! - I >>>> have even disabled any other language but the English... - still to no >>>> aveal.:-(! >>> Are you saying somewhere in there that the problem only happens on ONE >>> Mac? Or are you saying it doesn't work for you on ANY Mac? >> I'm saying it doesn't work on _any_ of the machines here in the house. >> No matter which one or what system. > > Then there is something about these computers that is similar between > all of them (file systems, OS configurations, etc.). It's probably some > change you made to all of them that is not part of the default setup. Two of the systems are totally clean installs without anything else but what was on the DVD. - And the only real change that I've made to all of my systems is that I always have Universal Access enabled using the enlargent of apprx. 3,5-4,5x - else I simplay can't use a computer at all because of my eyes... > Tell me, if you go to your nearest Apple store, does it work on one of > the computers there? : ) > > Just because you made a change that shows some obscure bug doesn't mean > everyone else on the planet will be affected. As already written, I'm not the only one who has problems with Preview. I know quite many who simply have deleted it and instead only use GraphicConverter, because they got so tired of Preview sucking up all the time. Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Jolly Roger on 2 Jun 2010 18:48 In article <4c06d860$0$32168$ba624c82(a)nntp06.dk.telia.net>, Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >> Mike Rosenberg wrote: > >>> Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >>>> I have deleted the prefs settings... I have copied a fresh version from > >>>> my backup system... - I've copied the one from my other 'developer' > >>>> system (same ver.) to the main system... - I've taken a copy from my > >>>> PowerBook - though not an Intel, but it can fine open... I've even > >>>> copied the Tiger version onto the Leopard... - NOTHING helps.:-(! - I > >>>> have even disabled any other language but the English... - still to no > >>>> aveal.:-(! > >>> Are you saying somewhere in there that the problem only happens on ONE > >>> Mac? Or are you saying it doesn't work for you on ANY Mac? > >> I'm saying it doesn't work on _any_ of the machines here in the house. > >> No matter which one or what system. > > > > Then there is something about these computers that is similar between > > all of them (file systems, OS configurations, etc.). It's probably some > > change you made to all of them that is not part of the default setup. > > Two of the systems are totally clean installs without anything else but > what was on the DVD. There are plenty of non-standard ways to do clan installs. HFS file system or other? Case-sensitive file system? And so on. > - And the only real change that I've made to all of > my systems is that I always have Universal Access enabled using the > enlargent of apprx. 3,5-4,5x - else I simplay can't use a computer at > all because of my eyes... > > > Tell me, if you go to your nearest Apple store, does it work on one of > > the computers there? : ) > > > > Just because you made a change that shows some obscure bug doesn't mean > > everyone else on the planet will be affected. > > As already written, I'm not the only one who has problems with Preview. Show me just one another person with tis particular problem, please. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Mike Rosenberg on 2 Jun 2010 19:24
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Just because you made a change that shows some obscure bug doesn't mean > > > everyone else on the planet will be affected. > > > > As already written, I'm not the only one who has problems with Preview. > > Show me just one another person with tis particular problem, please. This, again, is typical Erik. He flat out states that something doesn't work. When others respond to say it _does_ work, and no one says they have the same problem that he's described, he makes a more general statement about the app in question being buggy and adds that a lot of other people have problems with it. He never shows us an example of another such person, nor does anyone else post saying they've had the problem. He's said that Photoshop Elements cannot run under Tiger without Classic when, in fact, it can and does for everyone but him. He talked about problems with MacSOUP that no one else has reported anywhere I've been able to find. Oh, and let's not forget the secret features of Toast Deluxe 10, features so secret that no one in the world but him, even the folks at Roxio, knows of them. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> |