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From: Steve Hix on 30 May 2010 19:40 In article <4c02d7e0$0$32188$ba624c82(a)nntp06.dk.telia.net>, Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > Michael Vilain wrote: > > Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > > > > Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5 > > sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be > > using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken. > > Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It > always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and > now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2. Just checked v5.0.2 here under 10.6.3, and it crops/saves quite happily.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 30 May 2010 19:49 Tim Streater wrote: > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >> Michael Vilain wrote: >>> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >>>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>> Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: >>>>>> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo >>>>>> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and >>>>>> Preview don't seem to be able to do it >>>>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea Preview can't crop or rotate. It >>>>> can do both. >>>>> >>>>> Have you looked at the Tools menu in Preview?: >>>>> >>>>> <http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2218/previewtools.png> >>>> Preview can't crop, but sure it can rotate both clockwise and >>>> contra-clockwise + flip horizontal and vertical... Preview -> Tools menu. >>>> >>>> A simple and yet powerful editing tool could be Torsten Lemke's >>>> GraphicConverter from www.lemkesoft.com. Free demo available. >>> Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5 >>> sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be >>> using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken. >> Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It >> always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and >> now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2. > > I really don't know what you problem is. I've cropped dozens of pics > with preview, and adjusted their colours, sizes, and rotation. > > To crop I just drag a selection on the pic and choose crop from the > Tools menu. What's so difficult about that? Exactly! - But what does that help, when it's impossible to save afterwards? - I'm sick and tired of Preview and have been since the very first time I opened it on a B&W G3 with OS X 10.2.8. - And /when/ I'm forced to use it for one or the other reason on an image file, I use the selection marker and copy to the clipboard and insert the selection into Photoshop instead. - I know this will work! Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 30 May 2010 19:58 AES wrote: > mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote: >>> Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It >>> always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and >>> now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2. >> Okay, so we've established that Preview _does_ crop for everyone but >> you. Imagine my surprise! > > Are there different interpretations of the term crop in play here? > > My experience is that if you crop pixel files, e.g. in Photoshop > Elements and do a Save of the cropped file, accepting all alterations, > at the time you close it (or do as Save As Copy), the outer cropped area > is gone, and you get a permanent crop. > > If you do what some programs refer to as a crop on vector files (e.g., > in Illustrator), the resulting action is more a like a masking > operation: you no longer see the masked area, but the allegedly cropped > data is still there in the underlying file, even after a Save. Can't tell what Illustrator does, since I never use it - and never have on OS X. - But what am I going to do, when a message tells me that it can't save the file after a cropping action? Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Tom Stiller on 30 May 2010 20:06 In article <4c02f994$0$4809$ba624c82(a)nntp02.dk.telia.net>, Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > Tim Streater wrote: > > Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >> Michael Vilain wrote: > >>> Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > >>>> Jolly Roger wrote: > >>>>> Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote: > >>>>>> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo > >>>>>> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and > >>>>>> Preview don't seem to be able to do it > >>>>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea Preview can't crop or rotate. It > >>>>> can do both. > >>>>> > >>>>> Have you looked at the Tools menu in Preview?: > >>>>> > >>>>> <http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2218/previewtools.png> > >>>> Preview can't crop, but sure it can rotate both clockwise and > >>>> contra-clockwise + flip horizontal and vertical... Preview -> Tools menu. > >>>> > >>>> A simple and yet powerful editing tool could be Torsten Lemke's > >>>> GraphicConverter from www.lemkesoft.com. Free demo available. > >>> Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5 > >>> sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be > >>> using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken. > >> Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It > >> always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and > >> now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2. > > > > I really don't know what you problem is. I've cropped dozens of pics > > with preview, and adjusted their colours, sizes, and rotation. > > > > To crop I just drag a selection on the pic and choose crop from the > > Tools menu. What's so difficult about that? > > Exactly! - But what does that help, when it's impossible to save > afterwards? What happens when you select "Save" or "Save As..." from the file menu after cropping the image? -- Tom Stiller PGP fingerprint = 5108 DDB2 9761 EDE5 E7E3 7BDA 71ED 6496 99C0 C7CF
From: Mike Rosenberg on 30 May 2010 20:11
AES <siegman(a)stanford.edu> wrote: > > Okay, so we've established that Preview _does_ crop for everyone but > > you. Imagine my surprise! > > > > Are there different interpretations of the term crop in play here? > > My experience is that if you crop pixel files, e.g. in Photoshop > Elements and do a Save of the cropped file, accepting all alterations, > at the time you close it (or do as Save As Copy), the outer cropped area > is gone, and you get a permanent crop. > > If you do what some programs refer to as a crop on vector files (e.g., > in Illustrator), the resulting action is more a like a masking > operation: you no longer see the masked area, but the allegedly cropped > data is still there in the underlying file, even after a Save. Your point is well taken, but in this case Erik is talking about your first example, of a pixel file in PE or the like. He's saying cropping in Preview simply does not work. He has a long and inglorious history in the c.s.m. groups of stating things don't work in general when they specifically don't work for him. This is simply another item to add to that list. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi> |