From: Jolly Roger on
In article <4c02a9b3$0$32190$ba624c82(a)nntp06.dk.telia.net>,
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo
> >> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and
> >> Preview don't seem to be able to do it
> >
> > I'm not sure what gives you the idea Preview can't crop or rotate. It
> > can do both.
> >
> > Have you looked at the Tools menu in Preview?:
> >
> > <http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2218/previewtools.png>
>
> Preview can't crop,

Wrong.

If you had bothered to look at the screen shot above, you would see that
Preview can indeed crop.

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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

Michael Vilain wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo
>>>> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and
>>>> Preview don't seem to be able to do it
>>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea Preview can't crop or rotate. It
>>> can do both.
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the Tools menu in Preview?:
>>>
>>> <http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/2218/previewtools.png>
>> Preview can't crop, but sure it can rotate both clockwise and
>> contra-clockwise + flip horizontal and vertical... Preview -> Tools menu.
>>
>> A simple and yet powerful editing tool could be Torsten Lemke's
>> GraphicConverter from www.lemkesoft.com. Free demo available.
>
> Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5
> sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be
> using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken.

Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It
always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and
now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2.

Chgeers, Erik Richard

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> > Don't know the version of Preview you're running but 4.2 (469.5) on 10.5
> > sure can crop. The version on 10.4.11 could crop also. So, you must be
> > using an ancient version. Or you're just simply mistaken.
>
> Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It
> always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and
> now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2.

Okay, so we've established that Preview _does_ crop for everyone but
you. Imagine my surprise!

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From: Timothy Mathews on
On 2010-05-30 14:44:36 -0300, Dan Juarez said:

> On 2010-05-30 04:18:04 -0600, Timothy Mathews <NOSPAMtsmohio(a)yahoo.ca> said:
>
>> Still relatively new to the Mac world, I'm trying to find a photo
>> editor for simply tasks like cropping and rotating. Picasso and
>> Preview don't seem to be able to do it and GIMP looks WAY, WAY over my
>> head more like Photoshop.
>
> Here is a free app: http://seashore.sourceforge.net/
>
> Also, as mentioned in this thread, Preview can rotate and crop as well.
>
> And if you just bought a Mac you should have iPhoto on it.

I know I had previously tried iPhoto for something and, for whatever
reason, I'd not opened it a second time. Others suggested Preview and
Picasso both could do it and I went back only to find they can BUT very
much different from what I'd been used to. I left clicked to highlight
what I wanted to copy/separate from the photo and then right clicked to
copy, save etc and, of course, had no options presented and nothing in
the drop down menus seems to help UNTIL after reading what others said.
I thought, well it makes no sense that it would be under "file" but I
clicked "file" anyway, and, voila, yes, it can be done. Once again,
it's just a case of me being so married to the old Windows ways of
doing things that I don't yet think like a Mac person and sometimes
just can't seem to find the solution to things.

Bottom line, thanks to all who offered help.

Tim

From: AES on
In article <1jjbf6i.11obxq54yeau0N%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> > Same ver. here, but in no way I can make it save cropped any image. - It
> > always returns to the original size again. - So I've given up on it and
> > now only uses either GraphicConverter or Photoshop CS2.
>
> Okay, so we've established that Preview _does_ crop for everyone but
> you. Imagine my surprise!
>

Are there different interpretations of the term crop in play here?

My experience is that if you crop pixel files, e.g. in Photoshop
Elements and do a Save of the cropped file, accepting all alterations,
at the time you close it (or do as Save As Copy), the outer cropped area
is gone, and you get a permanent crop.

If you do what some programs refer to as a crop on vector files (e.g.,
in Illustrator), the resulting action is more a like a masking
operation: you no longer see the masked area, but the allegedly cropped
data is still there in the underlying file, even after a Save.