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From: Joerg on 16 May 2010 09:49 Nico Coesel wrote: > Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Nico Coesel wrote: >>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> IIRC, Jennic has a development kit and modules that are not too >>>>>>> expensive, like $500 for the dev kit... >>>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, no pricing on the site: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.jennic.com/products/modules/jn5148_modules >>>>>> >>>>>> But it's just bare modules. When designing I don't really need that and >>>>>> $500 just for home automation will raise a flag with SWMBO, just like a >>>>>> $500 handbag would with me :-) >>>>> Cheapskate! You mean your wife has no Coach purse? >>>>> >>>> Nope. We tend to use such monies in more useful ways. For example as a >>> OTOH buying a bag helps a few kids in Asia to fill their bellies. >>> >> Sending money to an organization where you can be sure that >80% of >> donations make it to the recipients in the form of food and medication >> helps a lot more. > > IOW: Buy from Dealextreme.com instead of Mediamarkt, Wallmart, Fry's, > etc, etc. > > I don't know any organization that helps people efficiently. Over here > the anual door-to-door collection result is barely enough to pay the > director's salary. > This one does: http://www.guidedogs.com/site/PageServer WRT food/med/shelter overseas the best avenue to fond out is a good church. They know which organizations are honest and efficient, and if they are like ours they are also directly helping from parish to parish which makes sure 100% of the money arrives and is used for the purpose. I don't know Europe too well anymore but IIRC "Welthungerhilfe" is pretty good. AFAIR they used to be above 90%. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Nico Coesel on 16 May 2010 12:56 Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Nico Coesel wrote: >> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Nico Coesel wrote: >>>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>> IIRC, Jennic has a development kit and modules that are not too >>>>>>>> expensive, like $500 for the dev kit... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm, no pricing on the site: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.jennic.com/products/modules/jn5148_modules >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But it's just bare modules. When designing I don't really need that and >>>>>>> $500 just for home automation will raise a flag with SWMBO, just like a >>>>>>> $500 handbag would with me :-) >>>>>> Cheapskate! You mean your wife has no Coach purse? >>>>>> >>>>> Nope. We tend to use such monies in more useful ways. For example as a >>>> OTOH buying a bag helps a few kids in Asia to fill their bellies. >>>> >>> Sending money to an organization where you can be sure that >80% of >>> donations make it to the recipients in the form of food and medication >>> helps a lot more. >> >> IOW: Buy from Dealextreme.com instead of Mediamarkt, Wallmart, Fry's, >> etc, etc. >> >> I don't know any organization that helps people efficiently. Over here >> the anual door-to-door collection result is barely enough to pay the >> director's salary. >> > >This one does: > >http://www.guidedogs.com/site/PageServer > >WRT food/med/shelter overseas the best avenue to fond out is a good >church. They know which organizations are honest and efficient, and if >they are like ours they are also directly helping from parish to parish >which makes sure 100% of the money arrives and is used for the purpose. >I don't know Europe too well anymore but IIRC "Welthungerhilfe" is >pretty good. AFAIR they used to be above 90%. Or send goods directly. Back in the days of the cold war my mother used to send things (mostly clothing) to a family in Poland. -- Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply indicates you are not using the right tools... nico(a)nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) --------------------------------------------------------------
From: krw on 16 May 2010 13:09 On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:43:32 GMT, nico(a)puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: >Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>Nico Coesel wrote: >>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> IIRC, Jennic has a development kit and modules that are not too >>>>>>> expensive, like $500 for the dev kit... >>>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, no pricing on the site: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.jennic.com/products/modules/jn5148_modules >>>>>> >>>>>> But it's just bare modules. When designing I don't really need that and >>>>>> $500 just for home automation will raise a flag with SWMBO, just like a >>>>>> $500 handbag would with me :-) >>>>> Cheapskate! You mean your wife has no Coach purse? >>>>> >>>> Nope. We tend to use such monies in more useful ways. For example as a >>> >>> OTOH buying a bag helps a few kids in Asia to fill their bellies. >>> >> >>Sending money to an organization where you can be sure that >80% of >>donations make it to the recipients in the form of food and medication >>helps a lot more. > >IOW: Buy from Dealextreme.com instead of Mediamarkt, Wallmart, Fry's, >etc, etc. > >I don't know any organization that helps people efficiently. Over here >the anual door-to-door collection result is barely enough to pay the >director's salary. Salvation Army
From: Joerg on 16 May 2010 13:29 Nico Coesel wrote: > Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Nico Coesel wrote: >>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Nico Coesel wrote: >>>>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>>> IIRC, Jennic has a development kit and modules that are not too >>>>>>>>> expensive, like $500 for the dev kit... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm, no pricing on the site: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.jennic.com/products/modules/jn5148_modules >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But it's just bare modules. When designing I don't really need that and >>>>>>>> $500 just for home automation will raise a flag with SWMBO, just like a >>>>>>>> $500 handbag would with me :-) >>>>>>> Cheapskate! You mean your wife has no Coach purse? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. We tend to use such monies in more useful ways. For example as a >>>>> OTOH buying a bag helps a few kids in Asia to fill their bellies. >>>>> >>>> Sending money to an organization where you can be sure that >80% of >>>> donations make it to the recipients in the form of food and medication >>>> helps a lot more. >>> IOW: Buy from Dealextreme.com instead of Mediamarkt, Wallmart, Fry's, >>> etc, etc. >>> >>> I don't know any organization that helps people efficiently. Over here >>> the anual door-to-door collection result is barely enough to pay the >>> director's salary. >>> >> This one does: >> >> http://www.guidedogs.com/site/PageServer >> >> WRT food/med/shelter overseas the best avenue to fond out is a good >> church. They know which organizations are honest and efficient, and if >> they are like ours they are also directly helping from parish to parish >> which makes sure 100% of the money arrives and is used for the purpose. >> I don't know Europe too well anymore but IIRC "Welthungerhilfe" is >> pretty good. AFAIR they used to be above 90%. > > Or send goods directly. Back in the days of the cold war my mother > used to send things (mostly clothing) to a family in Poland. > We do that through our church, to Kabimoi in Kenia. Now they need a new computer because the other one was stolen. But it has to be Africa-proof so probably not Win7 and all that. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: D Yuniskis on 16 May 2010 13:46
Hi Joerg & Nico, Joerg wrote: > Nico Coesel wrote: >> Or send goods directly. Back in the days of the cold war my mother >> used to send things (mostly clothing) to a family in Poland. <grin> My neighbor is routinely fixing up cars (bought at auction) and shipping them home to Poland. > We do that through our church, to Kabimoi in Kenia. Now they need a new > computer because the other one was stolen. But it has to be Africa-proof > so probably not Win7 and all that. There are organizations that do that on a large scale. W98 (cringe) is usually the safest thing to export to these places as it typically has "enough" capability and enough support for the sorts of peripherals that are likely to also be encountered, there. Monitors are the bigger problem as they are large and bulky and fragile. |